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re: Who’s your mid round breakout/overperform guys that’ll win leagues this year?
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:31 pm to CBandits82
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:31 pm to CBandits82
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Samuel started getting regular work in Week 11. In his final seven games, he averaged 3.9 catches for 53 yards and 0.43 touchdowns, which equates to a 62-846-7 pace over a 16-game season. He basically matched the production of D.J. Moore in that span.
Disingenuous, for one, considering Moore didn’t get “regular work” until later in the year as well. You can extrapolate his stats and he would’ve been a 1k guy. Two, he was a 21 year old rookie
There’s a handful of rookies in the past who hit benchmarks of at least 700+ yards, 14+ yards per catch, and at least nine yards per target. A few of the names
Julio
AJ
Odell
Juju
DJ Moore
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Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:40 pm to Cow Drogo
Donte Moncrief
Brown left alot of targets. Reports are that he has great chemistry with Roethlisberger already and is the most likely to be no.2 in targets on the team.
Brown left alot of targets. Reports are that he has great chemistry with Roethlisberger already and is the most likely to be no.2 in targets on the team.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 8/17/19 at 5:13 pm to LSUFord
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James washington all day in the 5-6 round if still available.
Am I missing something? He didn't even get drafted in my 14 team league. I took him off waivers just based off of the potential.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 6:34 pm to Cow Drogo
Yes. He's back with Shanahan who was able to help Coleman become a RB2 in 2016 despite something like a 60/40 split with Freeman. Even in 2017 he was a top 20 RB with almost the same split. He's got great receiving skills and will be the lead back on an offense that gives the lead back about over 50% of the pass targets and rushes, and they had over 400 rush attempts last year.
The Atlanta O-line last year was ravaged by injuries and he didn't have much to work with. Even if he doesn't come close to lower tier RB1 numbers, I think at the bottom end of his expected output he'll outperform his ADP by 5-10 spots.
The Atlanta O-line last year was ravaged by injuries and he didn't have much to work with. Even if he doesn't come close to lower tier RB1 numbers, I think at the bottom end of his expected output he'll outperform his ADP by 5-10 spots.
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:56 pm to GynoSandberg
I'm not sure of your argument here, I never said Samuel was better, but to me where he is going hes a must draft currently.
there is nothing disingenuous about what I posted, Samuel was there with Moore in some areas at the end of the season.
Samuel is gonna eat and hes 40 picks later than Moore.
give me that all day.
there is nothing disingenuous about what I posted, Samuel was there with Moore in some areas at the end of the season.
Samuel is gonna eat and hes 40 picks later than Moore.
give me that all day.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:09 pm to Cow Drogo
Definitely like Coleman as others have mentioned.
Also have a feeling Moncrief could have a big year with the Steelers. He was always a solid Redzone guy playing with Luck. He could do really well with Big Ben in the Steelers offense playing opposite Juju. He just fits the typical Steelers #2 mold better than Washington or anybody else they have to me.
Also have a feeling Moncrief could have a big year with the Steelers. He was always a solid Redzone guy playing with Luck. He could do really well with Big Ben in the Steelers offense playing opposite Juju. He just fits the typical Steelers #2 mold better than Washington or anybody else they have to me.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:41 pm to CBandits82
I not arguing anything, just that it’s a shitty disingenuous stat blurb
A 7 game Samuel sample, extrapolated to a 16 game pace , matches DJ Moore’s production, who himself didn’t start serious getting run until later in the year? How is that even a comparable comparison
Here’s a pretty apples to apples comp
Curtis Samuel has 91 targets in his career and 12 carries
DJ Moore has 82 targets and 13 carries
Samuel has 757 yards from scrim
Moore has 960 yards from scrim
Two WRs aren’t eating with usual Cam shows up completing sub 60%. He can barely prop up 1 WR over the course of his career
A 7 game Samuel sample, extrapolated to a 16 game pace , matches DJ Moore’s production, who himself didn’t start serious getting run until later in the year? How is that even a comparable comparison
Here’s a pretty apples to apples comp
Curtis Samuel has 91 targets in his career and 12 carries
DJ Moore has 82 targets and 13 carries
Samuel has 757 yards from scrim
Moore has 960 yards from scrim
Two WRs aren’t eating with usual Cam shows up completing sub 60%. He can barely prop up 1 WR over the course of his career
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:54 pm to GynoSandberg
Gyno, I’m a big Samuel fan.. but I feel his ceiling is capped in that offense and with Cam
I just traded him for Duke Johnson, a 2022 2nd, and a pick swap of my 2020 1st and 2 of his 2020 1sts, which will probably be in the 8-10 range
I just traded him for Duke Johnson, a 2022 2nd, and a pick swap of my 2020 1st and 2 of his 2020 1sts, which will probably be in the 8-10 range
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:13 pm to VermilionTiger
I mean I like Samuel. If he played for the Saints or an offense like that. I can’t see him being a trustworthy option week to week
But w Cam? Nah. DJ Moore is good. Ian Thomas had 100 target pace over his last 5 games and cam always had an eye for his TE and bigger target/catch radius guys. CMC gets a shite ton of looks
What is the best case for Samuel? He’s a hot name for fantasy analyst bc he’s sure to improve on his numbers and they can say they were on him early. Doesn’t mean he’s viable
But w Cam? Nah. DJ Moore is good. Ian Thomas had 100 target pace over his last 5 games and cam always had an eye for his TE and bigger target/catch radius guys. CMC gets a shite ton of looks
What is the best case for Samuel? He’s a hot name for fantasy analyst bc he’s sure to improve on his numbers and they can say they were on him early. Doesn’t mean he’s viable
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:14 pm to GynoSandberg
I’m a Moore guy too. Just has better natural receiving skills
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:20 pm to Lester Earl
Even if a Samuel finishes w a 62-847-7 type line, you’re talking Nelson agholor, Godwin, Jordy Nelson, sanu range from last year. Aka I’ll get ya 4 one week and 16 another week but you’ll never know when it’s coming kinda guy
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:08 pm to GynoSandberg
Here’s one for you
DJax or Samuel
DJax or Samuel
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:16 pm to Cow Drogo
qb's definitely dont matter.
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:32 pm to Lester Earl
I’d take Samuel
Think he will catch some cam bombs, that’s one throw he’s decent at
Samuel or Dede Westbrook
Think he will catch some cam bombs, that’s one throw he’s decent at
Samuel or Dede Westbrook
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:43 pm to GynoSandberg
Westbrook easily
Posted on 8/17/19 at 10:52 pm to GynoSandberg
quote:
I not arguing anything, just that it’s a shitty disingenuous stat blurb
A 7 game Samuel sample, extrapolated to a 16 game pace , matches DJ Moore’s production, who himself didn’t start serious getting run until later in the year? How is that even a comparable comparison
Here’s a pretty apples to apples comp
Curtis Samuel has 91 targets in his career and 12 carries
DJ Moore has 82 targets and 13 carries
Samuel has 757 yards from scrim
Moore has 960 yards from scrim
Two WRs aren’t eating with usual Cam shows up completing sub 60%. He can barely prop up 1 WR over the course of his career
So what is your argument here?
Are you saying don’t draft Samuel?
You don’t think he’s worth a late round flyer?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 7:40 am to BamaMan45
I’m looking at depth chart on fantasy sharks and it’s still listing Coleman as 3rd RB behind Brieda and McKinnon ?
Posted on 8/18/19 at 9:05 am to Cow Drogo
Reports out of camp are Tevin is #1. But the coaches are all over the place. That offense is great for RBs, and Tevin is talented, but I don’t want to take a risk on Tevin if his ADP goes up. He’s a flex or first off the bench guy until we know who will win that starting job
Posted on 8/18/19 at 10:26 am to CBandits82
So what is your argument here?
quote:
Moore may be slightly better than Samuel, but for their costs I like Samuel to provide more value.
We’ve already seen it from Samuel toward the end of last year tho
Samuel started getting regular work in Week 11. In his final seven games, he averaged 3.9 catches for 53 yards and 0.43 touchdowns, which equates to a 62-846-7 pace over a 16-game season. He basically matched the production of D.J. Moore in that span.
To me Samuel looks a little more polished in his route running and separation. Plenty of balls to go around if Cam is healthy
Posted on 8/18/19 at 11:42 am to GynoSandberg
Let's talk about Miami's new up tempo offense w/ gunslinger Fitzmagic at the helm.
With Landry out of the picture, Stills or Parker, or even both, should see huge uptick in numbers. Yet, either are barely being drafted. What am I missing here?
With Landry out of the picture, Stills or Parker, or even both, should see huge uptick in numbers. Yet, either are barely being drafted. What am I missing here?
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