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Green hit in regulation by handicap group when they play to their handicap

Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:01 pm




Nothing earth shattering but to drop that handicap you HAVE to hit more greens
Posted by Brood211
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:37 pm to
Proximity to hole is more relevant I would say

I hit 13/18’ and 14/18 my last two rounds ... but still shot 75....
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Nothing earth shattering but to drop that handicap you HAVE to hit more greens



Is that what you are getting from this? Not me.

This is saying that the difference between a scratch golfer and a 9 handicap is only 3 GIR, so that means scrambling and putting are likely more important
Posted by RawDog7984
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:48 pm to
That or you can’t putt worth a lick
Posted by Brood211
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 2:00 pm to
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That or you can’t putt worth a lick


That’s the damn truth!
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 2:36 pm to
Those charts goes to show that chipping & putting are the keys to scoring.

I use to play with 2 guys in Houston that between them , they played in 8-10 Q Schools.

Rex and Tim could pound the ball, but neither were good putters.

Tim told me that everyone could drive the ball and hit great irons, but the guys that get their cards are lights out putters.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 3:17 pm to
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everyone could drive the ball and hit great irons, but the guys that get their cards are lights out putters.


I think the strokes gained data is proving this wrong. The most consistent players are the ones who gain stroke tee to green and, especially, on approach. Strokes gained putting is much more volatile. Consistent ball strikers are the best players, IMO.
Posted by Brood211
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 3:22 pm to
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I think the strokes gained data is proving this wrong. The most consistent players are the ones who gain stroke tee to green and, especially, on approach. Strokes gained putting is much more volatile. Consistent ball strikers are the best players, IMO.


This is correct ... Mark Brodie’s book - every shot counts is a great read on this ... (shows iron game is the #1 denominator in terms of scoring at least for the best players in the game)..

Irons will get you in top 10 week over week, but to win you have to be tops in SG putting as well
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 3:23 pm
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 3:55 pm to
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only 3 GIR, s


3 extra greens is huge, there is no “only” in that statement.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 5:16 pm to
My take on these two charts:

1. I’m shocked there isn’t a plateau between a 3-9 handicap for GIR where proximity and hitting it more accurately doesn’t really shine.

2. I read between the lines that staying out of trouble, even when you miss greens is huge here as there isn’t a huge difference between handicaps under 15.

3. I would like to see correlation between fairways hit and greens hit in the same handicap groups.

4. I assume that low handicap players hit more greens than your players is due to shorter courses.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21979 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 5:52 pm to
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Irons will get you in top 10 week over week, but to win you have to be tops in SG putting as well


Agree. Colin Morikawa is a great example of this. He's considered to be a top 5-10 ball striker on Tour already, but he's a terrible putter. That's why he's only missed one cut in his career, and every so often he putts average instead of poorly. That's when he has a chance to win.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33134 posts
Posted on 7/26/20 at 6:15 pm to
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3 extra greens is huge, there is no “only” in that statement.

9 strokes is also huge though. 3 greens and 9 strokes difference
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