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Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:14 pm to lsufball19
Is CBS going to have exclusive rights to televise the trial or hearings in the court system...this is where its headed!
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:33 pm to Wildcat1996
I like being able to watch golf almost every week, even if it is the Barracuda whatever, wherever. My only complaint is having to watching Tiger or Phil when they don't have a snowballs chance in hell, of winning. Or even other popular players they seem to show a lot. If they are sucking, lets watch a player that's playing good, even though he's not a household name.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:33 pm to VernonPLSUfan
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My only complaint is having to watching Tiger or Phil when they don't have a snowballs chance in hell
You mean 2 recent major winners?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:58 pm to lsufball19
I think you have this scenario backwards.
It's more like Nike selling shoes to said business owner...and Nike deciding they'd like to market their product elsewhere.
People want Nike shoes. They can only buy them from your guy. Another shop owner says "I'll pay you double for the Nikes to sell shoes" and your guy claims Nike can only sell through him. That might be his choice, but let's not pretend it isn't cartel-like behavior.
Players need events and the tour needs players. Why does the PGA Tour demand exclusivity (or near exclusivity with their preferred partners)?
You say "read their by-laws". F their by-laws. By-laws can change...and from my perspective, should.
Why does the PGA Tour demand DJ leave money on the table to play in their sand box?
It's more like Nike selling shoes to said business owner...and Nike deciding they'd like to market their product elsewhere.
People want Nike shoes. They can only buy them from your guy. Another shop owner says "I'll pay you double for the Nikes to sell shoes" and your guy claims Nike can only sell through him. That might be his choice, but let's not pretend it isn't cartel-like behavior.
Players need events and the tour needs players. Why does the PGA Tour demand exclusivity (or near exclusivity with their preferred partners)?
You say "read their by-laws". F their by-laws. By-laws can change...and from my perspective, should.
Why does the PGA Tour demand DJ leave money on the table to play in their sand box?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 2:58 pm to lsufball19
quote:That doesn't change anything.
Yep. May want to read the PGA Tour bylaws.
Jerry Foltz leaves Golf Channel for this crap.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:05 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:They aint winning every major, or other tournaments in that matter. But yet I still see Tiger's and Phul's every fricking shot when their not even close to the lead. I know they peg the TV watching boards, but, come on maiin!
You mean 2 recent major winners?
Posted on 6/2/22 at 3:10 pm to VernonPLSUfan
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They aint winning every major,
Using this criteria you'll never see a golf shot
Posted on 6/2/22 at 4:52 pm to Wildcat1996
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You say "read their by-laws". F their by-laws. By-laws can change...and from my perspective, should.
No one gives two fiddler fricks about your perspective. That is why you have bylaws in place and players agree to them as a prerequisite of being a member of the PGA tour.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:26 pm to Wildcat1996
quote:
You say "read their by-laws". F their by-laws. By-laws can change.
You come across as someone who doesn’t live in the real world. They don’t have to play on the PGA tour if they don’t want to adhere to their bylaws
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:06 pm to lsufball19
This is my explanation of what’s going on in a nutshell for friends who ask me.
Pro golfers play for money and legacy.
PGA Tour had the most money, not much legacy.
Unfortunately for the top players they had to continuously perform at a high level for this money, and are horribly compensated compared to the top 1-5% of MLB, NBA, NFL, etc.
The only way to peel pros away from the PGA Tour is by offering tons of guaranteed money. This is why the DP Tour originally went to Dubai and got the Tigers and Rorys to go there for $$ appearance fees. The tours also created the WGCs to appease the top players (no cut, guaranteed huge purses, guaranteed world ranking points).
Then the Saudis came along. They are solely funding this tour to sportswash their regime’s shitty PR. They were only able to get a few pros to start who didn’t care about the PR hit or the possible repercussions from the Tour and possibly the majors. But once shitty 150th ranked players in the world start cashing 1mm checks for a T-5, more may start to come.
The tour absolutely needed disruption because it has become bloated and boring and as a member run organization has lead to the PGA Tour being a protected class of 100-200 average pro golfers who do evething they can to protect their status and not let younger players in, to the detriment of the top 1-5% of players who drive 99% of the eyeballs and sponsorship money to the tour.
The fact that this disruption is coming solely from the Saudis, for their motives, and not for the benefit of the game, makes it a sad time in golf and makes the future bleak, outside of the four majors and biannual Ryder Cup.
Pro golfers play for money and legacy.
PGA Tour had the most money, not much legacy.
Unfortunately for the top players they had to continuously perform at a high level for this money, and are horribly compensated compared to the top 1-5% of MLB, NBA, NFL, etc.
The only way to peel pros away from the PGA Tour is by offering tons of guaranteed money. This is why the DP Tour originally went to Dubai and got the Tigers and Rorys to go there for $$ appearance fees. The tours also created the WGCs to appease the top players (no cut, guaranteed huge purses, guaranteed world ranking points).
Then the Saudis came along. They are solely funding this tour to sportswash their regime’s shitty PR. They were only able to get a few pros to start who didn’t care about the PR hit or the possible repercussions from the Tour and possibly the majors. But once shitty 150th ranked players in the world start cashing 1mm checks for a T-5, more may start to come.
The tour absolutely needed disruption because it has become bloated and boring and as a member run organization has lead to the PGA Tour being a protected class of 100-200 average pro golfers who do evething they can to protect their status and not let younger players in, to the detriment of the top 1-5% of players who drive 99% of the eyeballs and sponsorship money to the tour.
The fact that this disruption is coming solely from the Saudis, for their motives, and not for the benefit of the game, makes it a sad time in golf and makes the future bleak, outside of the four majors and biannual Ryder Cup.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:20 pm to 3oliv3
The tour has all the legacy and less money.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:29 pm to TDTOM
You build your legacy as a golfer via amateur success, major championship success, and Ryder Cup success. That is the accounting of the greatest players. PGA Tour legacy exists, but it is the last row of the plane.
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:38 pm to 3oliv3
I disagree. They always mention major wins then tour wins. Not that this has much to do with the topic.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:21 pm to Wildcat1996
question...
look at the hundreds of millions of dollars that the tour is able to be used as a vehicle to give to charities...
do you think the Saudi's will make that happen?..
look at the hundreds of millions of dollars that the tour is able to be used as a vehicle to give to charities...
do you think the Saudi's will make that happen?..
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:58 pm to farad
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do you think the Saudi's will make that happen?..
No, they’ll use this tour to launder their own money
Posted on 6/3/22 at 12:36 am to lsufball19
Yeah I mean that’s just another problem. The PGA Tour launders their tax liability though charity but that’s better than the Saudis laundering their reputation through Phil, DJ, etc with duffel bags full of cash and no charity besides their own individual foundations.
Along with that the brand is so toxic right now who knows if there could ever be a charity arm to LIV. I wouldn’t be surprised if LIV was dead within 24 months and Greg Norman is being waterboarded in the Riydah Ritz Carlton for not delivering. Or if half the top 50 is continually playing in LIV events.
Along with that the brand is so toxic right now who knows if there could ever be a charity arm to LIV. I wouldn’t be surprised if LIV was dead within 24 months and Greg Norman is being waterboarded in the Riydah Ritz Carlton for not delivering. Or if half the top 50 is continually playing in LIV events.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 5:54 am to lsufball19
As I said, by-laws can change. And if change is needed, then change them. That is the real world.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 5:56 am to TDTOM
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No one gives two fiddler fricks about your perspective.
Of course not. This is an anonymous message board. Are you under the naive impression that your opinion means something on this forum? This is just a place to chew the fat.
That said, you have yet to make a compelling argument for why the Tour expects players to leave money on the table for the benefit of the Tour.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 5:58 am to Wildcat1996
What iif the tour.doesn’t want to amend their bylaws. They are put in place to protect the tour.
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