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re: Need Info on TRT
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:50 am to dangerousdon
Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:50 am to dangerousdon
I need some help on location of injections. I've been taking a weekly shot for about 2-3 months now. I've only done it in the side of leg. 90% of the time has been no issue, but 2 out of the last 4 times I've done it, when I pull the needle out it's squirted blood out behind it. I hate doing this anyway so it's definitely a bit of a startle when it happens. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I drew a little diagram below.
-I know you're supposed to go in basically the middle section like halfway between groin and knee indicated between the blue lines
-I don't think you're supposed to just go smack dab on the top of your thigh, like what you can see if you simply look down at your leg, indicated in red.
-I was told to just kind of go halfway down the side as indicated in teh green circle so that's what I've been doing. For those that are pros at this by now, am I maybe going a bit too high or too low? When finding an injection spot I go down from the firm, upper part of the muscle (like the red line in pic) and go to where it's softer and more give. Maybe that's not right?
-I know you're supposed to go in basically the middle section like halfway between groin and knee indicated between the blue lines
-I don't think you're supposed to just go smack dab on the top of your thigh, like what you can see if you simply look down at your leg, indicated in red.
-I was told to just kind of go halfway down the side as indicated in teh green circle so that's what I've been doing. For those that are pros at this by now, am I maybe going a bit too high or too low? When finding an injection spot I go down from the firm, upper part of the muscle (like the red line in pic) and go to where it's softer and more give. Maybe that's not right?
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Posted on 2/4/26 at 7:59 am to WG_Dawg
Looks like you're injecting it right into your IT band. I would go a little more anterior to that into the Vastus Lateralis if you are going intramuscular. I prefer sub-cutaneous.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:12 am to PrezCock
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Looks like you're injecting it right into your IT band
I assume that's the white part of the diagram? It's strange that it's only happened twice since I THOUGHT I was doing roughly the same area each time
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I would go a little more anterior to that into the Vastus Lateralis
break this down like I'm a drunk 9 year old please
eta: nevermind I see. Go more towards the top
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 8:13 am
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:17 am to WG_Dawg
I used to do leg injections but switched to glute after hitting nerves too many times. Much easier and far less likely to hit nerves and vessels.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:23 am to WG_Dawg
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Go more towards the top
Not the top, go more towards the front part of the thigh.
This picture shows where the Vastus Lateralis is, injecting into the anterior (front) portion of that is where you want to do your injections. Not the IT band. Most of the "white" part of the picture is going to have decreased blood flow to it. So it will take much longer to recover from injuries like tears. No need to go poking holes into your IT band when you don't have to. This could cause a buildup of scar tissue. Which can happen intra-muscularly as well, but muscles heal much faster. That's why I like sub-q, no need to worry about scarring. As well as the benefits to absorption.
Hope this helps
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:30 am to PrezCock
It does help! And now that you mention it, I have noticed a small purple bruise around the site so I guess that's where I've done it in the wrong place without as much blood flow. Good info.
One last point of clarification...let's say a starting point is smack dab in the middle of that IT band. Do I need to go both closer in the direction of the knee, AND closer to the top of the thigh/vastus lat? Or just go to the vastus lat anywhere?
Like in that diagram you posted, if I just go into the red vastus lateralis, does it matter how far up or down the leg I go?
One last point of clarification...let's say a starting point is smack dab in the middle of that IT band. Do I need to go both closer in the direction of the knee, AND closer to the top of the thigh/vastus lat? Or just go to the vastus lat anywhere?
Like in that diagram you posted, if I just go into the red vastus lateralis, does it matter how far up or down the leg I go?
Posted on 2/4/26 at 8:55 am to WG_Dawg
When I was doing IM injections into the Vastus Lateralis (VL) I was anterior to the IT band and usually somewhere between the top 1/3 and bottom 1/3 of the VL. That should be about the meatiest part of your VL.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:38 am to Marciano1
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I used to do leg injections but switched to glute after hitting nerves too many times. Much easier and far less likely to hit nerves and vessels.
exactly same here; now I do ventral glut and deltoids alternating sides
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:35 am to Marciano1
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I used to do leg injections but switched to glute
I'm intrigued by this becuase I hate needles and giving myself a shot in general and it seems like the glute woudl be a lot more forgiving. Is it not hard to see what you're doing or do you eventually get the feel for it?
Posted on 2/4/26 at 1:13 pm to WG_Dawg
Glutes easy, only problem is when you get to swole and can’t twist that far…
Joking aside I do side glute. Just sit in edge of tub/shower lean opposite way and stick. It’s very easy. Deltoid is great option as well with 1ml or less I find
Joking aside I do side glute. Just sit in edge of tub/shower lean opposite way and stick. It’s very easy. Deltoid is great option as well with 1ml or less I find
Posted on 2/4/26 at 1:24 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:Not at all. I'm terrified of needles but I really can't feel the 25ga needles I use. The ventro glute area is pretty easy. It's really on your side and not behind you.
I'm intrigued by this becuase I hate needles and giving myself a shot in general and it seems like the glute woudl be a lot more forgiving. Is it not hard to see what you're doing or do you eventually get the feel for it?
Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:33 am to lsu777
I started on test about 7 weeks ago. .3 twice a week, subQ. I just got my bloodwork done.
Test results aren’t back yet but my estradiol went from 35 to 54 pg/ml. How concerned should I be with that. Have an appointment with Doc this week but wanted to find out from the OT experts.
Test results aren’t back yet but my estradiol went from 35 to 54 pg/ml. How concerned should I be with that. Have an appointment with Doc this week but wanted to find out from the OT experts.
Posted on 2/7/26 at 7:36 am to Boss
100% normal. E2 goes up as test goes up.
Posted on 2/8/26 at 4:03 pm to Boss
quote:That's about what mine did but I went from .4 down to .3 and a couple of months later E2 was back in low 30s.
Test results aren’t back yet but my estradiol went from 35 to 54 pg/ml. How concerned should I be with that. Have an appointment with Doc this week but wanted to find out from the OT experts.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 9:28 am to Marciano1
Really struggling with idea of getting on TRT. Just got labs back.
46 years old
Total Testosterone: 395 ng/dL
Estradiol: 23.3 (normal)
TSH: 1.94 (excellent)
PSA: 0.7 (very good)
Idiots didn't test for SHBG/Free Test and I asked them to. Albumin is 4.8
The only items mildly outside range:
BUN: 30 (High)
BUN/Creatinine Ratio: 26 (High)
This is because I take 15 to 20 grams of creatine a day and only eat beef, bacon, butter, and eggs with one or two protein shakes a day.
Everything else — CBC, liver enzymes, testosterone, thyroid, estradiol, PSA — looks normal.
395 is technically normal but it’s mid-range, not optimal for performance or TRT.
I feel 'fine'. I kill myself in the gym I get proper sleep I stay properly hydrated I go 'overboard' on most things regarding health majoring in the minors type of stuff (avoid plastics, anything processed or artificial will not touch sugar etc.) I 'look' like I am already on either steroids or trt because of past usage of so much growth hormone and muscle memory. My muscles absolutely atrophied some but all returned to normal except for my left bicep. Many speculate prolonged hgh use can and will build some 'permanent' muscle that stays with you even long after you quit (been off for 10 years now)
I have excellent insurance that will cover it all. Am considering 150mg test cyp a week and 5mg of Cialis every other day. That's it. I just know once I start its a lifetime deal from here on out. I have used enough PEDs to last 10 lifetimes just not sure I want to even deal with trt level dosage(s).
46 years old
Total Testosterone: 395 ng/dL
Estradiol: 23.3 (normal)
TSH: 1.94 (excellent)
PSA: 0.7 (very good)
Idiots didn't test for SHBG/Free Test and I asked them to. Albumin is 4.8
The only items mildly outside range:
BUN: 30 (High)
BUN/Creatinine Ratio: 26 (High)
This is because I take 15 to 20 grams of creatine a day and only eat beef, bacon, butter, and eggs with one or two protein shakes a day.
Everything else — CBC, liver enzymes, testosterone, thyroid, estradiol, PSA — looks normal.
395 is technically normal but it’s mid-range, not optimal for performance or TRT.
I feel 'fine'. I kill myself in the gym I get proper sleep I stay properly hydrated I go 'overboard' on most things regarding health majoring in the minors type of stuff (avoid plastics, anything processed or artificial will not touch sugar etc.) I 'look' like I am already on either steroids or trt because of past usage of so much growth hormone and muscle memory. My muscles absolutely atrophied some but all returned to normal except for my left bicep. Many speculate prolonged hgh use can and will build some 'permanent' muscle that stays with you even long after you quit (been off for 10 years now)
I have excellent insurance that will cover it all. Am considering 150mg test cyp a week and 5mg of Cialis every other day. That's it. I just know once I start its a lifetime deal from here on out. I have used enough PEDs to last 10 lifetimes just not sure I want to even deal with trt level dosage(s).
Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:42 am to ronricks
quote:
I have excellent insurance that will cover it all
quote:
Total Testosterone: 395 ng/dL
Have you verified this, it is usually 350 or lower with 2 separate blood draws spaced apart. You can qualify with over 350, if your free T is low, but they did not check that.
You are going to find a happy spot somewhere between 150mg to 200mg weekly, but you will not know that until labs after you are on it for a few weeks. Start at 150mg obviously.
quote:
I feel 'fine'.
Why get on TRT? Linking with the other thread Boss started, he was in 500s yet feeling sluggish and low sex drive. He at least had a driving reason, regardless of whether he should have done it.
Having testosterone on the lower side of normal range is not a reason to do it, just to do it.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:04 am to DarthRebel
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Why get on TRT?
Because its inevitable and I am wearing myself out to be where I'm at right now and not on it. The only reason(s) any of my numbers are where they are is due to very strict lifestyle. Trt would at least give me a little leeway and not have to be as strict. I have basically willed myself back to very good health after 18 years straight of ped use and significant damage. I was told in 2015 by a doctor that I had "maybe 2 or 3 years left to live" and wouldn't even help me start reversing the damage. Took lots of work to get where I am at.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 12:10 pm to DarthRebel
But my free was low and one of the reasons I made the decision.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 3:09 pm to Boss
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But my free was low and one of the reasons I made the decision.
It is not a bad decision, I know I was a bit of an arse in your thread. My total T was to high for insurance, but we backed into it with free T being low enough. Do not know if all insurances will go that route.
I do not regret being on TRT, but looking back I wonder if I tried to boost my free T through other means would have been enough. I started in my 40s, would have preferred to start in my 50s. I think most men should really entertain it, in their 50s (you are almost there anyways). Similar to women needing HRT for menopause, there are very good benefits to men keeping their T high after 50.
Posted on 2/19/26 at 5:43 pm to DarthRebel
My wife is who pushed me. She started HRT last year and just the way I was feeling and the labs pushed me. I know it’s a lifelong commitment and I am willing to do the other things to sustain it.
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