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REM Sleep
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:50 am
Posted on 1/27/25 at 8:50 am
I'm looking for some help increasing my REM sleep. I'm getting 7-8 hours of total sleep a night but I top out at only about 40 minutes of REM. Last night only 8 minutes. This is according to a garmin watch so idk how accurate it is but it's a consistent trend. Sleep is something I've been trying to prioritize and I made a big change last year to start going to bed within an hour of the same time every night, even on weekends. I've also been doing dry January so alcohol hasn't been an issue.
I already lift weights 3 days per week, don't eat processed foods, track my macros, and limit caffeine to one cup of coffee in the mornings and preworkout only once per week also only in the morning. 16.0% body fat on an inbody. I do work on a computer all day but I use the blue light filter on both my computer and phone screens. I also take 350 mg of magnesium glycinate before bed. Anything else I can be doing?
I already lift weights 3 days per week, don't eat processed foods, track my macros, and limit caffeine to one cup of coffee in the mornings and preworkout only once per week also only in the morning. 16.0% body fat on an inbody. I do work on a computer all day but I use the blue light filter on both my computer and phone screens. I also take 350 mg of magnesium glycinate before bed. Anything else I can be doing?
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:05 am to Yeti_Chaser
I don’t know if you are far off to be honest. I train pretty much every day, and I average about 90 minutes of REM. On days I don’t, I’m in the 45 minute range.
Are you feeling tired or run down? If not, you are probably getting enough
Are you feeling tired or run down? If not, you are probably getting enough
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:11 am to Yeti_Chaser
quote:
garmin watch
My Garmin watch hates me. It hates my marathon training plan. It hates my sleep results. It routinely mocks me.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:58 am to Yeti_Chaser
I wouldn't worry about it unless you're falling asleep at your desk. My Apple Watch says I won't get REM sleep for three days in a row, but I may have 90 minutes of "deep" sleep on a good night. The watches seem to estimate what phase you're in with heart rate and breathing rate, so it's not infallible.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:34 am to Yeti_Chaser
quote:What is your deep sleep? I find that's the most relevant tracker for me.
REM Sleep
Here's my advice:
Try to get to bed by 10PM. 11 at the latest.
Have your last bite of food no later than 6PM. (I know this is a hard one, but I think it really matters).
Try to wear a constant glucose monitor for a couple of weeks to see what your glucose levels are like as you go to bed. You want them below 100 and ideally below 90 at that time and they can sometimes be sneaky high. The 6PM cut off should help with that, but if it's staying high, you can go for a quick walk or something.
Don't do any hard exercise within, say, 2 hours of bedtime.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:35 am to Yeti_Chaser
It may be worth a conversation with your doctor about getting a sleep study. You can be doing everything right and still have apnea hindering your sleep cycle. Apnea isn't just a fat person problem, though it's ore likely. I'm an active guy with healthy habits and stats, but I still have to sleep with an APAP to get good sleep.
Sleep studies these days are super easy. They give you a ring to wear at home, then they download the data. No more staying overnight in lab with shite hooked up to you.
Sleep studies these days are super easy. They give you a ring to wear at home, then they download the data. No more staying overnight in lab with shite hooked up to you.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:44 am to Yeti_Chaser
My Doc said Deep Sleep much more important than REM.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:51 am to TigerGman
quote:
My Doc said Deep Sleep much more important than REM
REM sleep has huge impacts on cognitive function, mood regulation, and brain function so they’re both pretty damn important.
The most important thing we do, actuallly
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:20 pm to TigerGman
quote:It's important to get an adequate quantity of both. However, I have found nights with diminished deep sleep hit the hardest. Like, I can sleep right in my optimal zone of 7-8 hours, but if deep sleep is less than an hour, I'll still feel crappy in the AM.
My Doc said Deep Sleep much more important than REM.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 1:01 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:every garmin watch hates its wearer. its how it be.
My Garmin watch hates me. It hates my marathon training plan. It hates my sleep results. It routinely mocks me.
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:39 pm to Big Scrub TX
Deep sleep seems to be around 1.5 hours per night and I do feel good so maybe I'm fine
This is something I could definitely improve
quote:
Have your last bite of food no later than 6PM.
This is something I could definitely improve
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:26 am to Yeti_Chaser
quote:
Have your last bite of food no later than 6PM.
Can someone explain the mechanism here?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:45 am to Yeti_Chaser
After reading this thread i wore my apple watch to sleep just to see what my numbers were:
22 min awake - 3%
84 min REM - 19%
298 min core (or light) - 69%
36 min deep - 8%
how bad am i going to die?
eta: yesterday was kind of abnormal as we had bball til 9 and didn't eat supper til after that. Maybe i should wear it for a week and average it out...
22 min awake - 3%
84 min REM - 19%
298 min core (or light) - 69%
36 min deep - 8%
how bad am i going to die?
eta: yesterday was kind of abnormal as we had bball til 9 and didn't eat supper til after that. Maybe i should wear it for a week and average it out...
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:28 am to Coon
Last night was the perfect example....
If you had asked me how I slept, I would have said poorly. Woke up multiple times, tossed and turned a bit, and generally didn't do well. Garmin sleep score: 90.
On nights that I sleep like a rock, it's almost always poor.
If you had asked me how I slept, I would have said poorly. Woke up multiple times, tossed and turned a bit, and generally didn't do well. Garmin sleep score: 90.
On nights that I sleep like a rock, it's almost always poor.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:32 am to Aubie Spr96
oooh, i wonder if apple gives a score like that...? i can tell at some point i woke up i had to use the bathroom but didnt feel like getting up so i went back to sleep then woke up 2h later and went to the bathroom. my sleep in that interval looked bad...
Posted on 1/28/25 at 1:00 pm to Yeti_Chaser
quote:
I also take 350 mg of magnesium glycinate before bed.
I take 2 of these before bed, and I get at least one solid REM cycle a night. Maybe change up the type you take, and that can help. Good luck.
Cardiovascular Research - Magnesium Taurate

Posted on 1/28/25 at 3:06 pm to Coon
quote:Yeah, that is...suboptimal.
had bball til 9 and didn't eat supper til after that.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 4:08 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:Both are important. I think you need longer intervals of Deep sleep than REM for optimal rest.
It's important to get an adequate quantity of both. However, I have found nights with diminished deep sleep hit the hardest. Like, I can sleep right in my optimal zone of 7-8 hours, but if deep sleep is less than an hour, I'll still feel crappy in the AM.
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