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Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:30 am to
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71930 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 8:30 am to
The best Texas school right now is Houston the last couple years and the reason they're at where they are is because of the guy that just left for Texas now...and nobody really wants to go to Houston. Poor Ed Oliver I feel really bad for.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
4601 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:20 am to
If I had a kid who is a 5 star and has offer from every school and Stanford. He will go to Stanford. Ivy league and P5 conf
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3534 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 9:47 am to
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Poor Ed Oliver I feel really bad for.


Don't, if he stays healthy, he may be the first pick in the 2019 draft. Dude is NFL ready as a freshmen.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
21343 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:59 am to
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Damn. Stanford is getting a monster 5* OT. Kid must really value academics, because he could go anywhere in the country with that size and skill. Good get for Stanford.
As much as I bleed purple and gold, if I had a son who was able both athletically and academically to cut it at Stanford, I'd let him look at it real hard. Tremendous school. Only negative is how far he'd be from home, especially since he'd likely wind up working on the West Coast if sports doesn't play out.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30822 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 11:09 am to
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Herman went to the wrong school, a good year for ut is going to be 7-5. Ut is so desperate they premium dollar on a one hit wonder.

They're probably going to win 9 games next year and if they pull an upset in one of their two huge games in the first half of the season (USC, OU) they will likely be in the playoff discussion down the stretch.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 12:38 pm to
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I don't get the Ohio state stuff, what was the score last game they played?

It's all about optics. Their loss to Clemson was bad, but the perception of the program is that it's not representative of the program overall. Meanwhile, if we were to lose a close away game against the #1 ranked team in quadruple overtime, the LSU ninnies would melt down harder than a thousand Chernobyls.

Optics and perception matter. If we LSU fans treated problems like bumps in the road instead of as program-defining catastrophies, we'd get the same benefits in recruiting and the media that the ohio states and bama are enjoying. (we are far from the only team/fanbase that does this, though)
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3512 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 4:22 pm to
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You win 5-6 games per season and your recruiting will suffer big time. It happened to LSU from 1989 - 1995 during parts of the Archer, Hallman, Dinardo years


That's B.S. LSU still got most of the best in La. and some good ones from Texas. The problem was coaching...PERIOD!
Posted by PinevilleTiger
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6378 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 4:24 pm to
BS, you could go coach Bama next year and win 9-10 games! It takes horses, not riders!
Posted by Magazine St
New Orleans Metro Area
Member since Feb 2015
1811 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 4:38 pm to
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Don't, if he stays healthy, he may be the first pick in the 2019 draft. Dude is NFL ready as a freshmen.

He'll go pro after next season for sure.
Posted by Gus Tinsley
NW LA.
Member since May 2008
3512 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 6:34 pm to
I missed maybe 6 home games those years and LSU had the horses just not the right rider!!
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 7:29 pm to
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Sumlin is lazy and fat and lazy.


Don't forget drunk.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7374 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 7:49 pm to
We shall see how good of a recruiter Herman is, maybe more so in the 2018 class.

But he has inherited two solid classes in a row, as a result of the players signed by Strong.

This year is a good opportunity for out of state schools like Ohio State, Oklahoma, and yes, LSU, to grab even more highly rated state of Texas recruits than usual.
Posted by Texas Tigre
Member since Jan 2012
10 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:18 pm to
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At LSU you play the big boys, other title contenders yearly


Other than teams coached by Nick Saban or Urban Meyer (when he was at Florida), whom exactly are you referring to that doesn't also apply to Arky, Ole Miss, Miss St, TAMU, Auburn, etc?

I would use playing perennial second (or worse) fiddle to Nick Saban every damn year for a conference cship AGAINST LSU in recruiting if I was a Big 12 team.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:35 pm to
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He'll go pro after next season for sure.



He won't be eligible. He was a true freshman this year.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25879 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 11:16 pm to
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I missed maybe 6 home games those years and LSU had the horses just not the right rider!


Yeah...so many horses, in fact, that NFL teams decide not to draft any of them in 1993...and only 9 picks from '91-'95. That makes it seem as though both horses and riders were absent in Baton Rouge at the time.

A case for the talent being there can be made for the late '80s, but the early '90s were dismal for the most part.

Just off the top of my head, these are Louisiana guys that LSU missed out on just in the '90s to late '90s:

Marshall Faulk (though, I think this was a position issue)
Reggie Wayne
Ed Reed
Warrick Dunn
Travis Minor
Kordell Stewart
Ike Hilliard

Hell, Aeneas Williams, on paper and with hindsight, would have been a miss from the late '80s. (Edit: just read that he didn't start playing football for Southern until his junior/senior year, concentrated on academics until then. So, maybe he shouldn't be thought of as a miss then.)

Kevin Faulk, and therefore DiNardo (yes, he laid the initial foundation for Saban), is responsible for making Louisiana kids want to come to LSU to play. Faulk made it "cool" again.

This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 11:23 pm
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:42 am to
The best school in Texas is Houston? Ha-ha-ha-ha!!

If you are going to praise Herman for a couple of big wins then you have to give him credit for the flops vs. Navy, Memphis, SMU, etc.

By the way, one of Herman's "big wins" was vs. Louisville. So...
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10527 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:45 pm to
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The best school in Texas is Houston? Ha-ha-ha-ha!!

If you are going to praise Herman for a couple of big wins then you have to give him credit for the flops vs. Navy, Memphis, SMU, etc.

By the way, one of Herman's "big wins" was vs. Louisville. So...



A&M was probably the best team in Texas last year, but Houston could make a strong argument. Texas has been down for several years now and Baylor imploded after the scandal. TCU has kind of been up and down under Patterson since joining the Big XII, so I'm not sure you could argue they are the best program. Texas Tech is all kinds of mediocre.

For as much money and pride that Texas schools have invested in their football programs, it's a seriously sad state of affairs over there. It means LSU has an easier time getting top prospects though, so I hope this lasts forever.
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1677 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 2:53 pm to
What the heck is going on in the state of Louisiana.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
2416 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:29 pm to
Not every top recruit has the luck to get through college without injuries or other issues surfacing which prevent a big fat contract with an NFL team. That said, that Stanford degree is worth a ton, especially if he's got the smarts to be involved in a Tech field.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22140 posts
Posted on 1/4/17 at 8:45 pm to
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Herman will change that.




Don't be so sure...the jury is still out on him- That Houston team was up & down- lost to freaking SMU!!!
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