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re: 2012 Mettenberger v. 2016 Etling
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:05 pm to helllo_heisman002
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:05 pm to helllo_heisman002
Etling's games versus Bama:
YEAR...CMP...ATT...YDS...CMP%...TD...INT.....RAT
.2016......11.....24......92.....45.8.........0......1........69.7
.2017......12.....26....137.....46.2.........0......1........82.7
Mett's games versus Bama:
YEAR...CMP...ATT...YDS...CMP%...TD...INT.....RAT
.2012......24.....35.....298.....68.6.........1......0.....149.5
.2013......16.....23.....241.....69.6.........1......0.....171.9
Totals against Bama:
............CMP...ATT...YDS...CMP%...TD...INT
Etling.....23.....50.....229.....46.0.........0......2
Mett.......40.....58.....539.....69.0.........2......0
If we had Mett the last two years, we would have a current 2 game win streak against Bama
YEAR...CMP...ATT...YDS...CMP%...TD...INT.....RAT
.2016......11.....24......92.....45.8.........0......1........69.7
.2017......12.....26....137.....46.2.........0......1........82.7
Mett's games versus Bama:
YEAR...CMP...ATT...YDS...CMP%...TD...INT.....RAT
.2012......24.....35.....298.....68.6.........1......0.....149.5
.2013......16.....23.....241.....69.6.........1......0.....171.9
Totals against Bama:
............CMP...ATT...YDS...CMP%...TD...INT
Etling.....23.....50.....229.....46.0.........0......2
Mett.......40.....58.....539.....69.0.........2......0
If we had Mett the last two years, we would have a current 2 game win streak against Bama
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 12:06 pm
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:09 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Mett wouldn't have done shite against MSU with the way we played on defense.
You do realize if our first two touchdowns were not called back it could have been a different game. Up 14 points who knows what happens. I know we ended up scoring on the second one called back but it does set the mood for the game. Looked like we just gave up. For example, look at Georgia and Ohio State losses. Teams just throw it in sometimes.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:41 pm to BilltheTiger
People actually shite all over Mett in 2012. Pumpers used the Bama game as a marker that he'd be great in 2013, but he kinda looked like shite in the games after Bama, too.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:48 pm to helllo_heisman002
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Etling
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this guy could have been an LSU legend....
Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:57 pm to helllo_heisman002
delete
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:02 pm to thunderbird1100
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We lost a third game against Troy, but he didn't get to play that whole game, so no telling what happens if he does.
I 100% agree with your entire post except for this. Etling took every snap in the first half vs Troy. The result was 60 passing yards and zero points.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:03 pm to helllo_heisman002
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helllo_heisman002
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:11 pm to the_watcher
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I 100% agree with your entire post except for this. Etling took every snap in the first half vs Troy. The result was 60 passing yards and zero points.
And the 2nd half was completely different and ended up with 200 yards and 2 TD. What if Etling was in on the drive Brennan ended up throwing an INT deep in Troy territory? Who knows, maybe no difference or we 3 and out.
However, again, Etling wasn't the primary reason we lost the Troy game, he played a pretty efficient game, and got into a no win situation on the last drive unfortunately (Which ended in a desperation heave pick). Before that last throw he was 17/24 for 198 yards, 2 TD. That's a 167.6 passer rating. The last throw which was an INT dropped him to a 152.9 passer rating.
I think Etling was a huge problem against Alabama and MSU. Not really in any other game though. That's the thing with Etling though, he can "Get you through" probably 9 or 10 games on the schedule easily, but in those 2 or 3 that are really tough, he just cant give you anything really. That's why I dont understand the comparison to Mettenberger. Nobody ever sat around contemplating if Mettenberger's talent would be the one to hold us behind.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:35 pm to thunderbird1100
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However, again, Etling wasn't the primary reason we lost the Troy game, he played a pretty efficient game, and got into a no win situation on the last drive unfortunately
He completed 7 passes for 61 yards in the first half. That included 2 dump offs to Tory Carter for 12 yards total, a pass for negative 2 yards to David Ducre, a 5 yard curl route to Dillon on third and seven, and a 1 yard completion to Darrel Williams. He also had an incomplete pass on 4th and 3 from the Troy 33, incomplete pass on 3rd and 5 from the Troy 38, and an incomplete pass on 3rd and 4 from the Troy 18.
When you lose to a Sun Belt team by 3 points at home that subsequently lost to a one win South Alabama team the next weekend and you didn't score a single point in the first half, you probably lost because you didn't score a single point in the first half.
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That's why I dont understand the comparison to Mettenberger. Nobody ever sat around contemplating if Mettenberger's talent would be the one to hold us behind.
I agree with all of this too. And pretty much everything you're saying about the topic. Except for Etling not being a primary reason why we lost to Troy.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:40 pm to the_watcher
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Except for Etling not being a primary reason why we lost to Troy.
LSU is such a powerhouse with such a great coach ... that the home loss to a Sun Belt team can be attributed to one person only.
Guess I imagined the part where Troy pushed LSU around all night long.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:42 pm to Ace Midnight
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Etling has had 4 offensive coordinators, 4 offenses to learn and 3 head coaches in 5 years. Part of that was voluntary, but still, that's a lot of changes for the young man.
Mett has the same thing
1 OC at UGA 1 at JUCO Stud and then Cam.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:48 pm to nugget
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Also try comparing the 2012 Bama game to this Bama game.
2012 Bama won
2017 Bama won
Does anything else matter?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:00 pm to navy
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LSU is such a powerhouse with such a great coach ... that the home loss to a Sun Belt team can be attributed to one person only.
Our 5th year senior quarterback generated a total of zero points in the first half vs a Sun Belt team and was benched for a true freshman. We lost the game by 3 points.
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Guess I imagined the part where Troy pushed LSU around all night long.
LSU was a 21 point favorite. They scored 21 total points. Troy didn't put up 50. They scored 24. If you can't score more than 21 points vs Troy at home, it's the offense's fault you didn't win. Who led the offense for the entire first half? Who forced the turnover that led to the short field before Brennan threw a touchdown?
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:06 pm to helllo_heisman002
Oh you're so stupid dude. Etling can not complete a pass that's 5 yards down field. It's literally boom or bust with him. And other than two passes against arky he has been bust since like week 2 on deep balls
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:14 pm to helllo_heisman002
Etling is LSU's savior right now. Brennan isn't ready. Etling is getting it done, and without him LSU would be done. And the guy isn't NFL bound - he's playing for love of the game.
But eating their own is what Tiger "fans" do best.
But eating their own is what Tiger "fans" do best.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:16 pm to SammyTiger
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Mett has the same thing 1 OC at UGA 1 at JUCO Stud and then Cam.
No question that Mett had to deal with a lot of change over his career (also self-inflicted to a degree), but is it really the same?
I mean, Etling has had 3 offensive coordinators in the last 13 months.
3 in 13 months.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:19 pm to helllo_heisman002
Yeah, and everyone was looking forward to Mett improving on his 2012 year going into 2013 with promise.
We are kind of just spinning our wheels with Etling this year with him not being back next year.
We are kind of just spinning our wheels with Etling this year with him not being back next year.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:22 pm to Ace Midnight
It’s not like Ensminger wrote a new playbook. Just called different plays.
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:36 pm to the_watcher
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He completed 7 passes for 61 yards in the first half. That included 2 dump offs to Tory Carter for 12 yards total, a pass for negative 2 yards to David Ducre, a 5 yard curl route to Dillon on third and seven, and a 1 yard completion to Darrel Williams. He also had an incomplete pass on 4th and 3 from the Troy 33, incomplete pass on 3rd and 5 from the Troy 38, and an incomplete pass on 3rd and 4 from the Troy 18.
When you lose to a Sun Belt team by 3 points at home that subsequently lost to a one win South Alabama team the next weekend and you didn't score a single point in the first half, you probably lost because you didn't score a single point in the first half.
And AGAIN, finished the game 17 for 24, 198 yards and 2 TD. Without playing in 3 of our offensive drives. He threw a pick on the last play having to make something out of nothing.
Etling played fine against Troy, again, not the primary reason we lost that game by any stretch of the imagination. We made 1 too many mistakes, period (Brennan's INT in Troy territory, fumbling the ball 1st play of game deep in own territory, fumble by Dillion inside the Troy 10 yard line, etc...) The rush defense was just crap. The 3rd down defense was very poor. The clock management by Orgeron at the end just dumb. I would blame a number of factors before a bad 1st half from Etling.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:55 pm to SammyTiger
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It’s not like Ensminger wrote a new playbook. Just called different plays.
Fair enough, but the OC/QB coach relationship is a big deal at this level.
I don't think Etling has done a bad job under the circumstances with which he's dealt. Again, no fault of the kid's, he's just not an elite QB. He is maximizing what God gave him.
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