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re: Brian Kelly and his special teams reasoning
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:52 am to 7Tiger7
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:52 am to 7Tiger7
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Although Jancek has the title, Kelly said LSU would use a “decentralized operation”
I don’t see the need to use this risky approach especially given how bad we were last year, but whatever Kelly wants.
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Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:52 am to 7Tiger7
I want to give Kelly the benefit of the doubt but on it's face, I hate this idea.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:53 am to 7Tiger7
Y’all know who Bama’s special teams coach is?
Coleman Hutzler
Special Teams Coordinator/Outside Linebackers
CBK is no dummy
Coleman Hutzler
Special Teams Coordinator/Outside Linebackers
CBK is no dummy
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:55 am to JPLSU1981
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But I’d be lying if the “too many cooks” in the special teams kitchen didn’t cross my mind here.
I mean Think of it this way:
Are you worried about us having an OL, OC/TE, WR, RB , and QB coach on offense?
Posted on 3/8/23 at 9:57 am to SammyTiger
This seems like a poor decision. Just make one person responsible and be done with it.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:02 am to 7Tiger7
I could have saved him some time and told him Bech just sucked.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:03 am to SammyTiger
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Are you worried about us having an OL, OC/TE, WR, RB , and QB coach on offense?
They all fall under the purview of a dedicated offensive coordinator.
This system is mish mash with a coordinator that has other duties on a different part of the team and an analyst who isn’t the coordinator.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:05 am to The Pirate King
At what point does Kelly get the trust of the board? Will he ever ?
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:10 am to Toptigerfan86
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At what point does Kelly get the trust of the board? Will he ever ?
When he stops losing to 4 win teams to end the regular season.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:11 am to The Pirate King
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They all fall under the purview of a dedicated offensive coordinator.
Who usually coaches another position as well.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:12 am to 7Tiger7
Without question i trust BK but..
This just seems like an unnecessary clusterfrick. I’d rather House , Davis and Denbrock stick with their units specifically and just have a proper ST coach who can recruit.
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In the new approach, offensive line coach Brad Davis and offensive coordinator/tight ends coach Mike Denbrock will handle blocking for extra points and field goals. Defensive coordinator Matt House will help with kickoffs. Cornerbacks coach Robert Steeples and safeties coach Kerry Cooks will look at the punt teams. Then Jancek has more time to oversee the Jack linebackers.
This just seems like an unnecessary clusterfrick. I’d rather House , Davis and Denbrock stick with their units specifically and just have a proper ST coach who can recruit.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:17 am to supatigah
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I go back to the fake field goal work under Les Miles and how incredibly effective that stuff was.
You also have to remember how bad punt ugly was when he started and that Les had to evolve in ST play to get something out of it. It took him forever to find Buster Davis as a punt returner, too. ST can be done in the way described very effectively. What Kelly will have to deal with is that it was so bad last season that if this approach isn't markedly better, he will receive a ton of criticism. My suspicion is it will work just fine, but when the institution is willing to give and do whatever you need, you damn sure have to properly identify and implement what you need.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 10:23 am
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:18 am to RGJ18
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Decentralized ST Coordinator didn't work with O
It's worked for Georgia the last 2 years.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:18 am to LSUGrad9295
You forgot to wipe that white shite off your mouth when you finished typing. This is a message board and you are entitled to give opinions. By the way I have 3 wins. I coached my sons pee-wee football team when the head coach got COVID.
I am not saying it will not work. It’s just a strange way to go about it.
I am not saying it will not work. It’s just a strange way to go about it.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:19 am to SMD
Interesting troll comment as usual for you.
You still mad that Kelly beat Saban in year one ? Or still mad that the baseball is still ranked #1?
Tough times for fans like you isn’t it
You still mad that Kelly beat Saban in year one ? Or still mad that the baseball is still ranked #1?
Tough times for fans like you isn’t it
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 10:23 am
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:20 am to 7Tiger7
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Or I would've fired him. That would've been easy
DAYUUUM
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:22 am to subidc
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I am not saying it will not work. It’s just a strange way to go about it.
I don't think it is based on what I've seen other teams do. It appears that most teams do it this way. It just isn't described with such particularity on who does what. Most teams just say, here is the coach that coordinates STs. It has to be collaborative, because your ST players pretty much all have other roles on the team, so no matter how it is structured, Davis has to communicate who he is using and who else is available and can be trusted to block. The DB and WR coaches have to identify players who could be gunners. The offensive staff has to identify players who they believe could be effective returners, etc.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 10:25 am
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:22 am to 7Tiger7
I think our lack of numbers last year had a big impact on special teams. Many special teams players are back ups that are getting playing time and future starters, often stars.
Because of our lack of numbers, the quality and lack of the typical special teams player was extremely less than most years.
Hopefully when we get back to a full roster the caliber of our special teams players will get dramatically better.
Because of our lack of numbers, the quality and lack of the typical special teams player was extremely less than most years.
Hopefully when we get back to a full roster the caliber of our special teams players will get dramatically better.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:27 am to TigerDM
Kelly should have his minions read the board like Orgeron did and make hires based on the boards opinions.
What could go wrong?
What could go wrong?
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:29 am to geauxdroddz
quote:Well, he addressed that-
Hope that is mainly media talk, but its insane to think everything was great except the fumbles. What about blocked FGs or terrible coverage?
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In the new approach, offensive line coach Brad Davis and offensive coordinator/tight ends coach Mike Denbrock will handle blocking for extra points and field goals. Defensive coordinator Matt House will help with kickoffs. Cornerbacks coach Robert Steeples and safeties coach Kerry Cooks will look at the punt teams. Then Jancek has more time to oversee the Jack linebackers.
Blocked kicks- you now have your OL coach & OC, the two guys who care most about blocking, overseeing that aspect. The guys who teach you how to block on passing and rushes, now teaching on blocking on kicks.
On kick coverages, you have your DC and your secondary coaches. Again, same concept- guys focused on open field containment and tackling.
My guess is, he wants sound, generic schemes. Nothing tricky or different, that allow players to move more easily back and forth between regular play and special teams.
It is noteworthy that Polian's skill as a personnel guy (which is seen through the transfer portal, probably more than recruiting high schools) is considered a must-keep.
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