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Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:35 pm to
Indeed. And if anything, it's hurting the mounds. See, children are filthy, dirty creatures, and bring with them an amount of dust and dirt and boogers when they play, naturally rejuvenating the hills.

Now, denied their rightful and natural process, they will wither away, unloved and unappreciated. Just some stupid, fenced off lumps of dirt.

Hell, with the fences they don't even look like boobs anymore.

It is a travesty, and not what the natives who built them for the enjoyment of all, in perpetuity would have wanted.

I know this because I have communed with the ancient spirits and they told me so.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13090 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:38 pm to
Lets see how many straw man arguments you construct in an effort to mitigate the embarrassment of your aggressively ignorant posts above......

Yes, of course, almost everyone in favor of preserving these mounds claim that a "poltergeist" will occur if someone walks on them, for example.....
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134098 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:42 pm to
Obviously that was silly. They wouldn't be poltergeists but vengeful spirits, angry that their mounds had been defaced by ugly fences.



but what exactly do you think will happen to the piles of dirt that were designed to be enjoyed continued to be enjoyed?

This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 3:51 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30078 posts
Posted on 11/14/24 at 3:56 pm to
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Lets see how many straw man arguments you construct in an effort to mitigate the embarrassment of your aggressively ignorant posts above......



people that use term "straw man arguments" are fricking retarded. I don't even know what it means, nor do I care.


I"m not mitigating anything.
It's a mound of dirt with history. Fencing it off and not letting human beings walk on it in the name of respect and preventing erosion is stupid. It's supposedly been there for 10,000 years, a fricking 20' mound of dirt, through floods, people walking on it, trees growing on it, hurricanes, etc, but a couple of kids sliding down it on cardboard boxes is going to cause it to cease to exists. Give me a fricking break.

You do realize it's possible to honor the mounds history, and still let people get on it, which has been happening for the last 100 years until someone recently decided we needed to treat it like an ancient structure that could somehow erode away after 10,000 years.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134098 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:53 am to
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You do realize it's possible to honor the mounds history, and still let people get on it, which has been happening for the last 100 years until someone recently decided we needed to treat it like an ancient structure that could somehow erode away after 10,000 years.



There are natural and manmade dirt hills people walk on every day, and they haven't eroded.

People walk on the levees...roll down them, slide down them. Have they vanished?

It's a stupid, asinine position not rooted in any solid science. Those mounds aren't any more vulnerable than any other old pile of dirt that no one says boo about walking on
Posted by SligoTiger
South of I-10
Member since Jun 2023
198 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 7:04 am to
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Truly, they are just dirt, but the human interaction with them made them magical.


This is profound. The rest of everything you’ve written in this thread is filler.
Posted by baseballcoach23
Member since Jun 2017
240 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 10:38 am to
All I said was "How about you educate yourself." And posted a link with some information about the Indian Mound. I haven't argued anything about the mound.

There is no need to get your panties in a bunch and get all butt hurt about the mound. LSU doesn't want anyone on the mound, so quit being entitled and complaining about something we cannot control.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134098 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 11:38 am to
It's a shame. They've taken away the very reason people loved and valued them.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:01 pm to
Just when I thought LSU fans couldn’t be any more retarded, this thread proves otherwise. Good fricking grief.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134098 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:09 pm to
You think some kids playing on some dirt mounds will hurt them and you want to call other people retarded?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
113953 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Woke policies led to lsu protecting the mounds


Students getting run over and killed did that.

But had that not happened, I suspect preservationists would have fenced them all the same.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134098 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 1:11 pm to
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Students getting run over and killed did that.


That was almost 40 years ago. The bollards were sufficient. I can totally understand not wanting vehicle traffic on them. That's reasonable.


Completely fencing them off and allowing no interaction and enjoyment of them destroys their very worth.


It would be like fencing a park in and not allowing anyone to enjoy it because there's dirt in there some natives moved around.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63186 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

A girl on one of the mounds got run over and killed when a vehicle drove over the mound.


That happened when I was in school at LSU, perhaps 1984.

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In the 1980s, a student was fatally injured when a vehicle struck her while driving over the LSU Campus Mounds. Another student was seriously injured in a separate incident involving a vehicle striking the mounds. These incidents led to the installation of vehicle barriers, but people continued to climb and play on the mounds.
The LSU Campus Mounds are two Native American mounds that are part of the Archaic Period. Construction on the mounds began over 11,000 years ago and may have continued until 5,000 years ago. LSU geologist Brooks Ellwood used radiocarbon dating to determine that the mounds are 11,300 and 8,200 years old, respectively. The mounds are considered the oldest known man-made structure in North America.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11616 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 3:38 pm to
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They should build new mounds for the kids to slide down.


They kind of already did when they cleared and landscaped the area behind the Journalism building.

Not to highjack this wonderful Indian Hills thread, but if they ever get around to demoing Middleton, that view from the steps of Hill Memorial to the Tower with the parade ground and law school in the distance will be awesome.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11616 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:05 pm to
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For all we know some baw in the 1700's could have dug that hill for himself so he could sit on top of it when it flooded.


The article specifically states construction on the mounds started 11,000 years ago.

quote:

They are literally guessing at how old they are and their purpose b/c there isnt' a shred of actual evidence to give any clue as to when or why they were formed.


They literally did core sampling along with carbon dating to determine the age of the sedimentary layers.

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There is literally nothign special about it, and ther'es nothing of signficance underneath them.


Other than their age, this is likely accurate. But other than age, what is the significance of anything on the historical registry?
Posted by New Boy
Member since Aug 2009
908 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:40 pm to
Y’all are missing the point….I wasn’t expecting this to turn into a whole debate on the historical significance of the mounds.

The purpose of my post was to suggest a way to restore a tradition while creating another revenue stream for the university.

Why does anyone care if there’s a couple or dead Indians under them?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134098 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Other than their age, this is likely accurate. But other than age, what is the significance of anything on the historical registry?



Actual structures, artifacts, remains, weapons...literally anything.

The best they can do is a pebble.

It's a hill of dirt than now has no purpose and no one will enjoy or remember.

In their quest to "save" them, they ruined them.

Now they're being preserved for no one to enjoy
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
14228 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:08 pm to
Indian mounds??
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3965 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:08 pm to
“Now they're being preserved for no one to enjoy”

I walk campus every morning when in town.. I have had people stop me a few times asking where they were….. they were definitely science looking groups but probably on some kind of field trip or something?
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134098 posts
Posted on 11/15/24 at 5:23 pm to
"Oh look, some piles of fenced off dirt"


They are murdering the shared memories. And once those shared memories stop being made, they die and leave the collective consciousness.
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