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Posted on 8/6/19 at 7:58 am to Damone
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With those facts, who in their right mind would sign up for an inexperienced GA learning on the job from E for two years (one of which is supposed to be poised for a title run - 2019)?
His previous job was offensive assistant with the Saints. Why post a dishonest statement implying he was a GA when he was hired by LSU? One year as OA he coached the TEs for the Saints and the other he worked with the QBs. He's currently our WR/PGC so he's not the OC and will not make play calls. He will provide a play call option for Ensminger.
Sean McVay went from asst. TE coach for the Redskins(2010) to TE coach (2011-2013) to OC. So in 3 years McVay went from a position group assistant to OC for an NFL team. In 7 years he goes from position group assistant to NFL head coach and Super Bowl team coach.
Will Brady be the next McVay? Obviously McVay is an outlier, but he's proof that Brady's ascension is not unheard of and there's no guarantee he gets named OC. If he turns out to be a boy wonder like McVay it's a genius move. If not, as others have said, big bad Scott Woodward will come in and fix the situation.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:55 am to BayouCowboy
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Why post a dishonest statement implying he was a GA when he was hired by LSU?
I mentioned multiple times that he was an OA for the Saints, do I need to include it in every single post?
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He's currently our WR/PGC so he's not the OC and will not make play calls.
There are many on here who would disagree. I've seen everything from "this is Brady's offense" to "Brady will have E's next play ready for him" to "Brady will call the plays but with E's approval and E can change it if he wants". I would have no problem in theory with accepting Brady as a PGC, it's the prospect of him being a de facto OC that is mind boggling for a program of LSU's stature with LSU's recent offensive history.
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Sean McVay went from asst. TE coach for the Redskins(2010) to TE coach (2011-2013) to OC. So in 3 years McVay went from a position group assistant to OC for an NFL team.
First off, I already said that it would be one thing if Brady spent a few years at LSU learning the ropes in lower positions, but that's not what people are discussing. People are talking about him being de facto OC this year then taking over full time next year.
And as to McVay, he had seven years of experience before being hired as an OC, including four with the same franchise that made him OC. He spent four years as an offensive position coach under Mike and Kyle Shanahan before being kept on as OC by Jay Gruden when he was hired. The equivalent would have been Jay Gruden hiring an offensive assistant from the Colts with no positional coach experience whatsoever as his OC.
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there's no guarantee he gets named OC.
One would hope, but again, that is not the narrative at play on here.
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If he turns out to be a boy wonder like McVay it's a genius move
McVay was hired by Mike Shanahan and then kept by Jay Gruden, two NFL head coaches. I'm sorry if I harbor some doubts that O is capable of identifying young offensive talent so early.
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If not, as others have said, big bad Scott Woodward will come in and fix the situation.
That is a fact
Posted on 8/6/19 at 8:58 am to Damone
Brady was hired by Sean Payton.
Who hasn’t said anything but good things about the guy.
Sonhas Moorehead
Who hasn’t said anything but good things about the guy.
Sonhas Moorehead
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:05 am to SammyTiger
No coach is going to do anything but praise a former assistant once they leave, that's just how it is. I'm also not saying anything about Brady as a person or coach, I just think it's insane to think that someone with so little experience would be hired at a program like LSU and be tasked with fixing the consistently terrible offense.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:08 am to Damone
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just think it's insane to think that someone with so little experience would be hired at a program like LSU and be tasked with fixing the consistently terrible offense.
You'll get over it.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
Guess we'll see. If Brady is indeed named OC, he will certainly have his work cut out for him in 2020.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You'll get over it.
Probably not.
The hiring of O broke him. He’s had a steady bloody vag ever since. Plus his personal life’s in the shitter.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:13 am to Ripley
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He’s had a steady bloody vag ever since. Plus his personal life’s in the shitter.
Yikes, I sense some projection.
ETA: you all should stop derailing this thread, try to stick to football talk and not obsessive personal attacks
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 9:14 am
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:14 am to Damone
Calm down CaptainPanic.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:18 am to Damone
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No coach is going to do anything but praise a former assistant once they leave, that's just how it is. I'm also not saying anything about Brady as a person or coach, I just think it's insane to think that someone with so little experience would be hired at a program like LSU and be tasked with fixing the consistently terrible offense.
Apparently high profile coaches disagree with you.
John Gattis (worked with Brady at Penn St), the 2018 co-OC at Bama and current OC at Michigan:
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When Josh Gattis interviewed for head coaching jobs this winter, he did so with a detailed vision of what he wanted his program to be.
And with those plans came ideas for a potential staff. The then-Alabama co-offensive coordinator had at least one person down for sure.
“Joe Brady was one of my lead candidates on there as a possible offensive coordinator,” Gattis said.
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Gattis, now the offensive coordinator at Michigan, said Brady’s skills with computers were notable, being able to draw something up on the screen immediately or handle any overwhelming task thrown his way.
“I can’t stress enough how important a guy like Joe Brady is in the meeting room,” Rogers said, “especially when you’re a coordinator. You don’t want a staff that sits there saying ‘Tell me what to do.’”
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Kevin Rogers, a former Minnesota Vikings coach who’s worked at Notre Dame and Virginia Tech, took a liking to him immediately. Linebackers coach Trevor Andrews was blown away by his knowledge and intelligence.
And then they’d be sitting in a meeting and the then-23-year-old quality control assistant, this guy near the bottom of the totem pole, would step in and speak his mind.
“He wasn’t afraid to come up with something, ideas, and it was always well-thought out of ideas,” Laycock said. “It wasn’t just throwing stuff out and trying to impress you. If he suggested a drill or a scheme or play, you’d listen to him because you know he had put a lot of thought into it.”
NOLA
It's an older article, but one of the most comprehensive ones on Brady. You should probably read it. When coaches at the college and NFL level rave about a guy like this there's obviously something there.
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But maybe Laycock would know better than anyone.
Buffalo Bills coach Sean McDermott was a graduate assistant for him at William & Mary and became an NFL head coach 19 years later. Dan Quinn was his defensive line coach and became head coach of the Atlanta Falcons 21 years later. He gave Rogers his first coordinator job. Former West Virginia coach Bill Stewart worked under him. Mississippi State defensive coordinator Bob Shoop was on his staff just nine years ago. Steelers coach Mike Tomlin played for him.
What do all these coaches have in common? Laycock’s seen them all.
“It’s just kind of an in it-factor where they have it. They have an acumen for coaching. They know how to teach. They know how to communicate and how to handle the ups and downs and how to handle the work of it.
“Joey has it.”
This post was edited on 8/6/19 at 9:20 am
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:19 am to Ripley
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The hiring of O broke him.
He's under terrible psychological stress for some reason. I can't understand why an LSU fan would be as hateful as he is.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 9:21 am to BayouCowboy
Well if that's the case, he may be the one to keep the offense going in 2020. Shaping up to be a tough year.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 1:41 pm to Damone
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Again: how is this a good idea? Everyone in the country knows that LSU is stacked with talent, has an incredible defense year in and year out, but simply cannot field a competent offense. With those facts, who in their right mind would sign up for an inexperienced GA learning on the job from E for two years (one of which is supposed to be poised for a title run - 2019)? Many people are wondering why a qualified and experienced OC with skins on the wall wasn’t hired once Canada was fired
Oh geez … this again? We all know that Alleva wasn't going to cut that check to hire a top-notch OC while also paying Canada's $1.7 million buyout. We all know that this wasn't an ideal plan. Could it still work out great, though? Yeah, it could, and all the early indications are that it will. But it certainly could fail.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 2:09 pm to Damone
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Shaping up to be a tough year
Only to your fragile mind
Posted on 8/6/19 at 2:12 pm to BayouCowboy
quote:Was this the job that CSP couldn’t thinking of anything positive to say about him in interviews?
His previous job was offensive assistant with the Saints.
Posted on 8/6/19 at 5:10 pm to Damone
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What are his qualifications for calling plays at a program like LSU this season?
IDK what his qualifications are, but I'm certain he will be better than Cameron and Studrawa. Besides, he had very good tutelage watching and learning from Sean Payton. I think he does a great job. Just hope O and E don't veto most of his calls.
Posted on 10/21/19 at 2:16 pm to tigerfan1985
Bumped, just for fun.
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