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Posted on 3/23/11 at 9:38 am to
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
22326 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 9:38 am to
While I do agree that we could maybe find someone with more of a history working with pitchers, to say that he is totally responsible for those arm injuries is ridiculous.
Posted by ellisu99
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2011
48 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 9:46 am to
Been here the whole time, wish it didnt happen but pitchers will struggle and when they do, you can find them at various baseball facilities around town at night trying to fix their problems because no one on campus has any idea. this has been going on since Grewe has been here.
Posted by toddg
Earth
Member since Feb 2007
420 posts
Posted on 3/23/11 at 9:50 am to
Of course Alsup hasn't regressed because he was so horrible early on in his career that the only way he could go was up. He is still the least reliable arm in the weekend starting rotation even though he is the senior. Ott obviously has issues. 3 pitchers from last years staff have undergone tommy john surgery. Maybe Grewe doesn't know enough about pitchers mechanics to be an effective pitching coach. Should McCune or Gausman go down I am sure it will hit the fan for this team.
Posted by big70
Member since Feb 2006
486 posts
Posted on 4/12/11 at 11:39 pm to
Just wanted to point out Grewe still sucks
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12482 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 12:00 am to
With what baseball knowledge I possess...as limited as it may be...I believe scoring in 3 of the last 36 innings is the problem with this team. We've had some guys carry shutouts into the eighth inning...and wind up with a loss or a ND. Sad.
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The pitchers need some support from the hitters, IMO. Might even lift morale to the point they pitch better.
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Relievers are killing us as well, though.
Posted by Goose
Member since Jan 2005
22307 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 12:22 am to
quote:

I can't remember one pitcher that has gotten better under his direction


Ben Alsup

2009 - 29.1 IP, 6.14 ERA, 24k
2010 - 48.2 IP, 3.88 ERA, 33k
2011 - 41.1 IP, 3.27 ERA, 27k

Daniel Bradshaw

Has Regressed a lot

Matty Ott

2009 - 50.1 IP, 2.68 ERA, 69k, 16 SVs, 4 Wins, 2 Losses
2010 - 42.1 IP, 6.38 ERA, 40k, 11 SVs, 2 Wins, 4 Losses
2011 - 17.1 IP, 3.63 ERA, 18k, 4 SVs, 2 Losses

Paul Bertuccini

2009 - 25.2 IP, 3.86 ERA, 31k
2010 - 31.2 IP, 2.56 ERA, 31k

Anthony Ranaudo

Regressed

Austin Ross

Stayed about the same


My point is that yes there have been some pitchers who have regressed under Grewe's watch, but there also have been some pitchers that have gotten better. Hell Louis Coleman was stellar as a starter under Grewe, and he had mostly been a bullpen pitcher until 2009. Grewe may not be the best pitching coach EVER, but he isn't as bad as some think.


This post was edited on 4/13/11 at 12:28 am
Posted by lsugirl5807
Member since Jan 2009
464 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 12:24 am to
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The pitchers need some support from the hitters, IMO. Might even lift morale to the point they pitch better.

I 100% agree with this but this
quote:

Relievers are killing us as well, though.

makes me question Grewe. I think that he is good coach, I'm just not sure if he belongs as a pitching coach. It does seem like a few pitchers have regressed under him (Ott, Bradshaw, and don't forget Ranaudo) and I don't agree with some pitch calls either.
I don't think it is completely him, but it is a concern in my mind...
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62499 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 7:12 am to
quote:

The man can no longer be our pitching coach. I can't remember one pitcher that has gotten better under his direction

We are getting worse at the pitching position! Is it just me?

Pls discuss



I think it says a lot about a poster's knowledge when he's complaining about pitching at a time like this.

It's not the pitching.
Posted by lsufan52
new iberia la
Member since Oct 2009
1970 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 7:28 am to
it's dave canteberry
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 7:39 am to
quote:

Should McCune or Gausman go down I am sure it will hit the fan for this team.


Hell I'm sure it would more then hit the fan if we lost one of them.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88190 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 7:47 am to
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lsuroadie


You obviously haven't been watching this team.

The pitching's not the problem.
Posted by jrich11
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2010
993 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:37 am to
freshman pitching staff aside from what? 3 guys? give me a break.


Posted by cajunjj
Madison, AL
Member since May 2008
7427 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:40 am to
Its a good thing we are football fans because we can't compere in the sec in any other sport.
Posted by Broham
Member since Feb 2005
19095 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:40 am to
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why should he get much credit for McCune or Gausman?

This, he didn't do anything to improve the freshman. They're just talented. It's time for Grewe and Sanchez to walk.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
19432 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:42 am to
Naw...wait till the fall. We won't be able to compete in the SEC either. JJ will fail, Mett with touch another girl, and we will be kicked out of the SEC.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
87199 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:52 am to
Well according to someone on the recruiting board, grewe pantsed a recruit for taking the MLB money.
Posted by tadelatt
Buga Nation
Member since Jan 2010
12336 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Berry?


He is good but who the hell called the slider right after he hung one up the pitch prior?

Sorry but that was bad coaching to tell someone to throw a pitch in the clutch when Berry obviously did not have it that night.

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McCune? Alsup? Gausman?


I will give you McCune and Gausman but Alsup is still a 50/50 pitcher. He has some control issues.

Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 9:41 am to
Would Grewe look that bad if we could hit with RISP ? Our ERA isn't that bad overall so, is the problem Grewe or Sanchez ?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162424 posts
Posted on 4/13/11 at 10:08 am to
I think its fair to say Grewe is a huge step down from rooney.
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