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Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3395 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:26 pm to
There was no way a guard was going to keep him from getting to the goal. I’m not talking about constantly taking the ball from 22 feet but in that situation he had a clear path to the goal and chose to give it up. Those 2 plays alone would have given them the points they needed to win. And that wasn’t the only time as I said.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
8168 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:28 pm to
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There was no way a guard was going to keep him from getting to the goal. I’m not talking about constantly taking the ball from 22 feet but in that situation he had a clear path to the goal and chose to give it up. Those 2 plays alone would have given them the points they needed to win. And that wasn’t the only time as I said


Debating a loss two days later. Awesome.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34932 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:41 pm to
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I disagree, a loss at home vs South Carolina would be the end.


The season would not be "over" after just 2 SEC games. But I do agree the path to at least 8 SEC wins become narrower. South Carolina is the worst team in the league (based upon the predictive/efficiency metrics). Lose that one at home and you start to really wonder where the 8 wins come from? It's unlikely LSU would go 8-1 at home and when you (a) consider McMahon has only won 4 total SEC road games in (now) 28 tries and (b) look at the remaining road schedule, it's difficult to fathom more than 2 road wins

With A&M now off the board, I think the most realistic path to 4 SEC wins in January is: SC, Mizzou, Miss. St at home and SC on the road. If LSU loses to SC tomorrow, then they are looking at having to win at least one of the games vs. UK (home) or Florida, Arkansas, Vandy (road).
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4566 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 12:47 pm to
Easily winnable game if we had Thomas. Agree on Sutton. Really good player 15 feet and in. Tamba is a great asset. Wish he looks to score a little more
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67921 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:07 pm to
I get it, you’re saying he had a couple chances and didn’t score. I’m telling you not adjusting your gameplan to feature your best available offensive player is a mistake. Having your best option with one of the lowest usage rates on the team is poor coaching. It we were talking about any other coach on earth this wouldn’t be an argument. If we saw a game like that from Darius Days when Eason was out you’d be agreeing with me.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67921 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:29 pm to
Tamba did a good job, good energy and effort player.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
3526 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:30 pm to
Yeah I missed the news too. Have to think that if he plays we win by 7-10 points.

Right?
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
4598 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 2:42 pm to
The one thing you don't seem to comprehend Mcdork, is that the HC is responsible for everything to do with his program, positive, negative, fair or not.

Your record defines your performance PERIOD!!!

Playground legends like yourself seem to get off on defending this "coach" who should've been fired 2 seasons ago.

I prefer to.have LSU coached by a winner, not some poor SOB that needs posters like you wiping his arse for him.every time he craps all over the place.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34932 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 2:50 pm to
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Wish he looks to score a little more


Yeah, I don't know about that. Him doing so was one of the turning points of the game. With the game 41-40 (A&M) he took an ill-advised 3 that led to a runout 3 for A&M. The next possession he made a bit of a bad pass that Nwoko couldn't finish. A&M got the rebound and quickly turned it into another 3. That blew what had pretty much been a 1 possession game into a 7 point A&M lead (that after ballooned to 10). LSU was eventually able to cut it back down, but him trying to do more than just being a rebounder/effort guy hurt LSU.

He definitely has a role on the team. But that role isn't trying to create offense
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3395 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 2:55 pm to
And the only sport you've ever been a legend at Mctigahlove is typing. And the only injury you've ever experienced is corpal tunnel syndrome from your keyboard warrior days although that may be from one of your other legendary activities. Righty or lefty? Your angry little man syndrome may work on your mom when the meatloaf is late but don't waste your time with me. Losers like you who have no life but to bitch and complain on here speak for themselves. And NIL has everything to do with winning these days.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
8168 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 3:06 pm to
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And the only injury you've ever experienced is corpal tunnel syndrome from your keyboard warrior days


So smart……lol
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34932 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 3:26 pm to
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And NIL has everything to do with winning these days.


So are we to assume Vanderbilt has the highest NIL budget in the SEC since NIL has "everything" to do with winning?

Funny, I don't see them mentioned in the "$10M club" or even the "$8M" club. Neither is Alabama

LINK

Maybe Vanderbilt is hiding all of that MAJOR NIL money. Gobs of it that was able to land them the 57th ranked HS signing class and 49th ranked transfer class (By comparison, LSU's classes were ranked 23rd/16th respectively)

If NIL is everything, and coaching ability really doesn't matter much, then why is Vanderbilt the (current) top team in the SEC?

In 19 career SEC games Vandy's HC has only 5 fewer conference wins and 1 fewer conference road wins than McMahon has in FIFTY-FIVE (55) career SEC games.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 3:28 pm
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3395 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 3:55 pm to
It is in almost every case. There will always be exceptions and yes coaching does matter. But 90 % of the time talent is the difference as it was last year compared to this year. I've never said Mcmahon is a great coach but he is a good coach that has not had the NIl backing that most have in the SEC. That is why I choose to judge him harder this year.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1544 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:18 pm to
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But 90 % of the time talent is the difference as it was last year compared to this year


exactly

"you don't win the Kentucky derby with mules, but with greyhounds. what really matters is getting good players" - frank Williams wade
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1544 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:21 pm to
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If NIL is everything, and coaching ability really doesn't matter much, then why is Vanderbilt the (current) top team


seems like we would need to know their budget relative to everyone to answer this question.

also no one claimed NIL is everything, we do the opposite and agree with you that its very important.

there are other factors even outside of coaching, like players wanting to be near family etc.

also its a little early to crown vandy.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1544 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:24 pm to
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is that the HC is responsible for everything to do with his program, positive, negative, fair or not


if that were true, kiffin would not have left ole miss. some places have far more potential than others.

I believe will wade is the best coach alive in any sport. I also believe he would never come close to a title with the southeastern lions. so no, the coach is not responsible for everything. if funding isnt there, its not there. Kentucky might outspend LSU in hoops for the next 100 years and there is nothing any coach can do about it.
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67921 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:34 pm to
Florida won the natty with the 63rd ranked roster. Arkansas and Kansas paid the most NIL last season and finished 6th and 9th in their conferences. Wade went 2 for 2 making the tourney at Mcneese and beat a 5 seed last season.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3395 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:37 pm to
Speaking of NIL and coaching according to some of these experts Wade must suck as a coach now. He has $10-12 mil NIL budget and a POY candidate and just got blown out at home by VA and is 10-5 with 2 losses to unranked teams. Not my metrics, yours.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
9250 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:40 pm to
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Speaking of NIL and coaching according to some of these experts Wade must suck as a coach now. He has $10-12 mil NIL budget and a POY candidate and just got blown out at home by VA and is 10-5 with 2 losses to unranked teams. Not my metrics, yours.


No doubt they have struggled at times this year. However, when you have 8 tournament appearances over the last 10 years (including the year he was out of coaching) at three different schools, you tend to get the benefit of the doubt.

When you are 14-40 in conference play over the last three years, you don't get that benefit.

Nice try.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34932 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 4:49 pm to
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also no one claimed NIL is everything,


The post I was replying to said exactly this....

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And NIL has everything to do with winning these days.


If NIL has "everything" to do with winning, then wouldn't the only takeaway from statement be nothing else has anything to do with winning?

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seems like we would need to know their budget relative to everyone to answer this question.


NIL budgets are ALL speculative estimates. They don't get reported to the league like salaries in pro sports. The irony though is you believe whole heartedly LSU's statement...with 3 weeks left to go in the season...that it had one of the lowest NIL budgets in the SEC...without any actual proof of that being the case. Yet, challenge others to show "proof" when they suggest that isn't the case. That acceptance was essentially just an excuse looking for a cause. LSU is losing a ton...so the only fathomable reason why is because they have a low NIL budget...even though the only "proof" of that is LSU's self-serving statement

The reality is any proof of the amount of NIL funding can only be circumstantial evidence. To that end, one would have to assume the higher sought after players (both transfers and HS recruits) would command higher NIL "salaries". And, presumably, the rankings of the players would suggest they are the more highly sought after players. At least that's how it's always been. So given we as fans celebrate recruiting classes in every other sport by rankings it stands to reason given that McMahon's classes overall haven't ranked poorly that he's been able to land several highly sought after players...which are guys one would presume would command higher NIL payments.

Who knows? Maybe McMahon has been a master at getting relatively highly ranked recruiting classes on the cheap?
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 4:51 pm
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