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Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:19 pm to
Posted by Circle K Beggar
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:19 pm to
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also, when your best player is a PG that everyone replies on to make them better, its worse than just losing a random good player


Again, it is literally McMahon’s job to devise a winning game plan around things that occur in his program.

Starting the 2026 SEC campaign with a FAIL
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:19 pm to
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I don't believe that all I simply challenge you to disprove it, and you never can. I don't claim to know anything, my claim is that your claims are not based in any data you are willing to show us.


Basically you are saying to prove a negative.

Put it in this context. There are hundreds of murder trials every year in the US. FAR more often than not there isn't a murder weapon or video of the murder taking place. Yet, the crime can be proven based upon a multitude of circumstantial evidence suggesting there could be no other conclusion to be drawn other than the defendant was guilty.

Now apply that to this discussion. There is no "murder weapon" in the sense of conclusive NIL expenditures for LSU...or any team. That means you can't definitively show LSU had the second lowest NIL budget just like I can't definitively show they did not. But again, lets consider the circumstances:

1. NIL funding is used to recruit/sign players ahead of the season. That means whatever NIL figures would have been agreed upon in April, May, June, when the rosters were finalized...not October, November, or February of the next year. So if LSU had the second lowest NIL budget last season it would have been the case BEFORE the season started. Yet, that narrative ONLY appeared with 3 weeks left to go in the season when LSU was 2-10 in SEC play and was set to play the only team worse than them, South Carolina. If LSU was the second lowest funded team then why did it take until the final few weeks of the season for that to come out?

2. For their part, in the previous season South Carolina had its best regular season in 30 years. So good in fact they gave their HC a significant raise at the end of the season. Yet we are to believe that with interest in the program as high as it had been in a while and enough funding to give the HC a raise the donors just said "screw it. Don't give the players any money"?

3. Look at the source who first reported the alleged lack of NIL funding. It was Shea Dixon. A guy whose primary focus for his entire media career has been football recruiting. Yet, somehow HE's the guy to finally uncover this mystery? Sounds odd...until you realize his wife is a longtime employee of the Athletic Department

4. As discussed before, generally higher sought after player command higher NIL "salaries". I'd hope we can both agree on that. And presumably, the higher sought after players are generally those who are the higher ranked players. To that end, McMahon's overall class rankings have never been "bad". So is he a con-artist who is able to sign these highly sought after players on the cheap? Or does he have a little more funding than you want to believe.

To use a middle school analogy, you're forming a hypothesis (that the poor record has be caused by anything except McMahon being a poor coach) then looking for anything and everything to prove that hypothesis instead of observing/researching THEN forming that hypothesis.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3402 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:19 pm to
LOL. So take the best bench player and star PG off of every team in the SEC and how many win their first SEC road game with a freshman PG? You are so biased it is pathetic. And yes it was winnable. Ya think maybe coaching had something to do with that?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:21 pm to
The topic is hoops, not double standards, hypocrisy and make believe
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1551 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:21 pm to
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Basically you are saying to prove a negative


incorrect asking for data on NIL that shows relative numbers
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
8211 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:22 pm to
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LOL. So take the best bench player and star PG off of every team in the SEC and how many win their first SEC road game with a freshman PG? You are so biased it is pathetic. And yes it was winnable. Ya think maybe coaching had something to do with that?


I don’t have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.

It is McMahon’s job to come up with wins no matter what happens. Records don’t come with asterisks for explanations of losses.

He needed a win Saturday and yet again, came up short. How will he win the next game? (That’s a rhetorical question.)
This post was edited on 1/5/26 at 5:23 pm
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1551 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:23 pm to
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hypothesis (that the poor record has be caused by anything except McMahon


nope my hypothesis is that you either do not have or refuse to show NIL data
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
68047 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:25 pm to
He’s a troll, treat him accordingly
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1551 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:25 pm to
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I'd hope we can both agree on that. And presumably, the higher sought after players are generally those who are the higher ranked players


I don't know that we can assume that, as the coaches might have entirely different metrics and rankings.

market value is always the best actual metric, the same way prediction markets that use actual betting are the most efficient.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1551 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:29 pm to
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That means you can't definitively show LSU had the second lowest NIL budget just like I can't definitively show they did not. But again, lets consider the circumstances


yes, team was shite when they said they were poor, now they supposedly have more cash and are way better
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1551 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:32 pm to
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So take the best bench player and star PG off of every team in the SEC and how many win their first SEC road game with a freshman PG?


this seems like a fairly strong point.

if we are making excuses for losses, this one is a good one
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3402 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:39 pm to
I’m not making an excuse for a loss. Although if any other coach was coaching I can only imagine the comments. I still think they could have won and if Sutton just scores 4 points we are there instead he went scoreless. of course his not making shots or attempting to shoot is coaching in this case.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1551 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:42 pm to
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I’m not making an excuse for a loss.


I am, I don't have any problem with excuses. injuries are a good excuse
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3402 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:43 pm to
He will win their next game with a Freshman PG that had the experience of playing on the road and facing a press. Or is it your belief that players can’t develop or improve.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1551 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:45 pm to
speaking of improvement, nwoko has made massive strides and is now an offensive force.

could be good coaching
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21274 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:46 pm to
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An update on Thomas’ lower (left) leg injury will be Monday night on the SEC Availability Reports at 7:10 p.m. with Coach McMahon expected to address the situation on his debut of his weekly radio show on the LSU Sports Radio Network, beginning at 7 p.m.
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2897 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:46 pm to
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He definitely has a role on the team. But that role isn't trying to create offense
There was lots of bad offense to look at in this game and Tamba was a small part of it. For instance, Reece an under 30 % three point shooter leading off the game with a quick long one which he missed. Sutton only taking four shots, At least Tamba is hitting a third of his threes which justifies him taking one once in a while. The real problem with this team is shot selection. They pass up fairly good shots to try and work it inside which results in a turnover or missed shot. Tamba has ten foot jumpers open all game and doesn't take them. He never tries to drive even though he has shown great athletic ability and the ability to finish. When our offense consists of Nwoko dunks when open and McKinnon threes when open, we desperately need more shots by Sutton and Tamba just to keep the defense honest if nothing else and I think both could thrive with those mid range jump shots.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3402 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 5:49 pm to
I have to laugh at a lot of you wailers. I mean I have a couple of close friends and they don’t like McMahon and wanted him fired but even they complimented the game and how much better they performed than they expected. They thought we were going to get blown out on the road with a freshman making his first start. But you dickwads can’t even do that. So pathetic.
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1551 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 6:02 pm to
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I think both could thrive with those mid range jump shots.


nah mid range jumpers are almost always a bad idea which is why every year a higher and higher percentage of attempts are either threes or layups/dunks.

Nate oats has made bama awesome this way. although it does have its drawbacks when the team is ice cold from distance.

I say keep the mid range jumpers to a bare minimum and instead drive and get fouled or find an open triple.

mcmahon I believe favors always scoring in transition as much as possible, which I am not sure is a great idea
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
20252 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 6:08 pm to
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I am, I don't have any problem with excuses. injuries are a good excuse

It’s a results business not the excuse business. Winning is what matters. It’s not always fair but neither is life.
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