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re: does our offense even gameplan for other teams?
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:48 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Posted on 9/26/14 at 7:48 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Because YOU don't understand the game plan doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Because the plan didn't work doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
To assert that here was NO game plan is stupidity on a massive scale.
But I guess you believe that Chinese people are stupid because YOU don't understand what they are saying.
Because the plan didn't work doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
To assert that here was NO game plan is stupidity on a massive scale.
But I guess you believe that Chinese people are stupid because YOU don't understand what they are saying.
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Posted on 9/26/14 at 8:57 am to dljtigers
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We should have started throwing the ball a lot earlier. We need balance on offense.
I agree, but the problem is that Jennings just isn't very good. We had receivers open all night but he couldn't get them the ball. He locks onto his primary target and if he's covered, he either throws into double/triple coverage or he tried to tuck it and run.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:07 am to Gray Tiger
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Because YOU don't understand the game plan doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Because the plan didn't work doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
To assert that here was NO game plan is stupidity on a massive scale.
But I guess you believe that Chinese people are stupid because YOU don't understand what they are saying.
of course they had A gameplan. everyone has A gameplan. go back and read the OP, i asked if we gameplan our opponents. thats the problem, they didnt gameplan MSU. they used the same gameplan they use every week. how do you not get this? they did not try to attack any of MSUs weaknesses, they were stubborn and tried to do what they always try to do even tho it was detrimental to the team.
its pretty clear if they had a gamelan in place to attack MSU they would have attacked the secondary. they didnt. they tried to run at the strength of their team. thats a failure by the coaches.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:13 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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its pretty clear if they had a gamelan in place to attack MSU they would have attacked the secondary. they didnt. they tried to run at the strength of their team. thats a failure by the coaches.
Miles is gonna Miles. It's maddening and makes absolutely no sense to most people, but it makes sense to him and that's all that matters. It's not the first time we've seen this kind of thing happen and it definitely won't be the last. I never thought that we'd totally abandon the run, but I was hoping that we'd try to spread it out a bit like we did in the 2nd half of the Wisconsin game.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:15 am to Tiger Voodoo
quote:OP has a point. Hope the staff realizes that and executes a better plan in the future....
I am as big a Miles supporter as there is, but this is a valid criticism thread. No coach is perfect, and our staff dropped the ball this week imo.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:26 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Bert Macklin FBI
You continue to compound your ignorance. Do you actually think that LSU doesn't have a different and very complex game plan for each and every opponent? Do you really believe that the team just shows up on Saturday and the coaches wing it? Are you so unschooled in football to believe that the game plan doesn't change from week to week?
Against MSU, the game plan didn't work and LSU lost. The fact that you don't know anything about football and can't detect differences doesn't mean that nothing changed.
Grow a set and get over it.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:27 am to Gray Tiger
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Do you actually think that LSU doesn't have a different and very complex game plan for each and every opponent? Do you really believe that the team just shows up on Saturday and the coaches wing it? Are you so unschooled in football to believe that the game plan doesn't change from week to week?
i was thinking the same thing. a loss certainly brings out the paint huffers
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:32 am to Gray Tiger
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Do you really believe that the team just shows up on Saturday and the coaches wing it?
Maybe we should've tried this last Sat?
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:32 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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case and point is the MSU game.
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Private Message: Its thursday. Time to move on from the MSU game....Click here to remove this message.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:39 am to Goldrush25
quote:This
It appears that CLM's philosophy has been "we do what we do and if we do it well they can't stop us."
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:59 am to Bert Macklin FBI
I think the answer is NO we don't game plan to exploit other teams' weaknesses. If they did the least we could've done was the same first play as the Sam Houston game. What could it have hurt? If successful the tone would have been set for MS to watch out. We could've gone back to the run but mixed in the passing game. The players morale would've been high and we might have put them on their heels from the beginning. Instead we are struggling from the beginning because of the hardheaded intent to run against their D. Any hiccup by our D and we are behind - exactly what happened. Mullen saw that that and said "dumbass is playing right into our hands!" Once down we struggled, and that first play could have changed the whole game. Our young players would have had a completley different attitude with some early success.
Last week I predicted that we'd at least run an out route (pretty safe) to Quinn to start, and then start pounding them. I will no longer predict that Les will change anything to exploit the other team. He proved that the only thing you can predict with him is the SOS.
And btw this has been beat to death all week.
Let's move on
Last week I predicted that we'd at least run an out route (pretty safe) to Quinn to start, and then start pounding them. I will no longer predict that Les will change anything to exploit the other team. He proved that the only thing you can predict with him is the SOS.
And btw this has been beat to death all week.
Let's move on
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:05 am to Gray Tiger
are you so blind that you cant see that our plan of attack every week is the same? we try to ground and pound every game. its been the same for years.
yeah of course the blocking schemes are tweaked a little from week to week as every team has a different defense but the fact still remains that the overall plan of attack is the same EACH and EVERY week. no matter who we play.
IMO, they completely ignored MSU and wrote them off as a team that they could push around and wear down. they didnt try to find ways to attack MSUs weakness, they were over confident and bit them in the butt. plain and simple.
this is going on day 2 of this argument you have yet to back up your statement that there was a gameplan in place that tried to exploit any of MSUs weaknesses. im not even looking for specific plays just tell me in general what you think we did to attack there vulnerabilities.
yeah of course the blocking schemes are tweaked a little from week to week as every team has a different defense but the fact still remains that the overall plan of attack is the same EACH and EVERY week. no matter who we play.
IMO, they completely ignored MSU and wrote them off as a team that they could push around and wear down. they didnt try to find ways to attack MSUs weakness, they were over confident and bit them in the butt. plain and simple.
this is going on day 2 of this argument you have yet to back up your statement that there was a gameplan in place that tried to exploit any of MSUs weaknesses. im not even looking for specific plays just tell me in general what you think we did to attack there vulnerabilities.
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 11:09 am
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:24 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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does our offense even gameplan for other teams?
Yes! Of course! Our gameplan against MSU was to add a running back lined up on the far hash, run him across the front of the QB for an obvious fake, and send the QB for a run up the middle.
That's some radical innovation right there... especially designed to perplex college football teams from Mississippi.
I resent the whine insinuated by your question.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:32 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Thats fine and dandy unless "what we do" works directly into the hands of "what they do".
Well yeah, that's one of the cons.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:38 am to Goldrush25
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Well yeah, that's one of the cons.
i understand what youre getting at. the plan will be the same every week and i shouldnt expect anything different, but just because this gameplan that we use every week has about an 80% success rate doesnt make it any less infuriating when they stick with that philosophy when playing teams that can match us physically. especially when those teams have glaring weaknesses that we ignore.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:43 am to monsterballads
quote:Silly me. I thought really good coaches studied the tendencies of their opposition and make every effort to scheme against any exploitable weaknesses. I mean if this weren't so, then poker-player CLM wouldn't need to worry about divulging who LSU is going to start, or other info as to his game plan, injuries or lineup.
they are not concerned with what other teams are doing
I wonder if anybody in coaching-land has forgotten that our opposition studies our tendencies and does make their plans accordingly.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:43 am to Bert Macklin FBI
When CLM's philosophy works, it's a thing of beauty and it's fun being a fan of a team that can just simply impose their will on a team and they can't do anything about it, like in 2011.
When we don't have the people in place to run it, it's frustrating to root for this team. Just gotta know that good times will be back soon enough.
When we don't have the people in place to run it, it's frustrating to root for this team. Just gotta know that good times will be back soon enough.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 11:52 am to JawjaTigah
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opposition studies our tendencies
miles doesn't exactly try to hide anything on the field either. there's so many "tells" his players give away.
very predictable. I guess he doesn't think other teams watch LSU game film.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:00 pm to dljtigers
quote:Selective memory, or just a parrot?
Your the idiot. The first half we continued to try and pound the ball between the tackles with little to show for it.
We should have started throwing the ball a lot earlier.
3 pass attempts on 2nd possession,
2 on 3rd possession,
4 on the 4th,
3 on 5th,
4 on 6th,
1 on 7th (2 plays?)
17 attempts in 1st half.
The 1st possession, was the only one in the entire game without a pass attempted,.
quote:That's pretty spot on for 50% R/P.
We need balance on offense.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 12:06 pm to monsterballads
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I guess he doesn't think other teams watch LSU game film.
they don't need to
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