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re: Former North Texas head coach Tony Benford is expected to join LSU as an assistant
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
A few black coaches does not negate the fact that racism still exist in college basketball. Although there has been some progres it is still abundately clear that there is quite more work needs to be done when you look at the high numbers of African Americans competing in football and basketball. White coaches will typically hire black assistant coaches whom can go into the African American community to pull out the great black talent. This is done at almost every Division power in both sports. The fact that a 34 year old ex-manager would be given an opportunity to be in a position to coach at a division one school is simply foolish. To impute that racism is dismantle from college sports is far worse.
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Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:49 pm to Merlin08
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Merlin08
You're a bastard too
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:50 pm to chinhoyang
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maybe if more of them were hired, the list would be longer
Then maybe some of them need to be better at their jobs.
When is this race baiting hack going to get banned? He shits up every basketball thread with this race bullshite.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:52 pm to chinhoyang
If you are truly looking for a more diverse coaching community the biggest culprits are small schools. A school like LSU is in the market for an established head coach. We aren't the type of school to hire an assistant to be our head coach, while that is more the job of the mid major programs to pull up-in-coming assistants.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:53 pm to Gumbyxl
That is complete bullshite. Sports is 100 percent success driven. If you can win, you can be a head coach.
The ratio of black players to black coaches is irrelevant. What about the race of the student body? Alumni? City? State?
Any of those could be a factor, but they aren't. Winning is the only factor.
LSU just had a basketball staff with 3 out of 4 coaches being black. They didn't win, now they are fired.
The ratio of black players to black coaches is irrelevant. What about the race of the student body? Alumni? City? State?
Any of those could be a factor, but they aren't. Winning is the only factor.
LSU just had a basketball staff with 3 out of 4 coaches being black. They didn't win, now they are fired.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:54 pm to SouthOfSouth
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If you are truly looking for a more diverse coaching community the biggest culprits are small schools. A school like LSU is in the market for an established head coach. We aren't the type of school to hire an assistant to be our head coach, while that is more the job of the mid major programs to pull up-in-coming assistants.
This is an accurate statement and one that is often overlooked when people call for more diversity in Division 1 head coaching.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 1:56 pm to chinhoyang
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This is an accurate statement and one that is often overlooked when people call for more diversity in Division 1 head coaching.
I just don't understand how you can bash LSU for hiring a white guy if you understand the issue. It isn't with LSU. They have proven they are willing to hire a black head coach, however, this go around the most qualified for the position happened to be white.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:01 pm to SouthOfSouth
Our fanbase: "Why is it taking so long to hire someone?!?!"
Also our fanbase: "Why did they hire someone so quickly?!?!"
Also our fanbase: "Why did they hire someone so quickly?!?!"
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:07 pm to chinhoyang
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So Coach Jones was too incompetent and inept to be the head basketball coach at LSU, but the coach who coach who couldn't carry on Coach Jones' legacy at UNT is competent enough to be an assistant?
boy your logic here is flawless and not retarded at all
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:11 pm to 1999
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:15 pm to Gumbyxl
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The fact that a 34 year old ex-manager would be given an opportunity to be in a position to coach at a division one school is simply foolish.
Why? Wade was mentored by Oliver Purnell and was the first hire on Tommy Amaker's staff at Harvard and Shaka's at VCU.
Crazy thought, but maybe those guys actually thought he was a promising head coach in the making.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:22 pm to grape nutz
Success driven? What I am referring about is opportunity. The scale is unbalanced in the favor of white men while the labor force (players) are nearly 70% African American. For Pete's sake, Will Wade was a ball boy yet afforded to learn the game from the exclusive from powerful men in charge. African Americans seldom get this sort of opportunity.
LSU has made advances in their hiring practices however, to name a hand full of coaches in a sport dominated by African Americans is the South Africa of sports. It is alarming behind words. The coaches are white. The AD's are white and so are most the mascots. What kind of world is it when you are people of color?
LSU has made advances in their hiring practices however, to name a hand full of coaches in a sport dominated by African Americans is the South Africa of sports. It is alarming behind words. The coaches are white. The AD's are white and so are most the mascots. What kind of world is it when you are people of color?
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:26 pm to Gumbyxl
Get that BS out of here. There's plenty of underprivileged black kids that get free college degrees and become millionaires because of sports. Quit acting like someone is a victim here.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:27 pm to chinhoyang
quote:That's a voice in wilderness.
when people call for more diversity in Division 1 head coaching.
I mostly hear calls for wins, titles and NCAAT success, not an affirmative action trophy.
LSU has done it's part with the last 2 hires and no reason to bitch.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:27 pm to Gumbyxl
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The scale is unbalanced in the favor of white men while the labor force (players) are nearly 70% African American.
you dont have to play college basketball to be a basketball coach. Logic = flawed.
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Will Wade was a ball boy yet afforded to learn the game from the exclusive from powerful men in charge. African Americans seldom get this sort of opportunity.
Being a Manager is waaayyy more important than you are giving it credit. Ask any college basketball player about the managers when they played. They are at practice, games, shootarounds, and meetings. They are basically coaches in training.
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:30 pm to SouthOfSouth
Please name me 5 coaches in college basketball that never played the game? I figured that you couldn't. Check mate!
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:32 pm to Gumbyxl
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Please name me 5 coaches in college basketball that never played the game? I figured that you couldn't. Check mate!
Well off the top of my head I can think of Buzz Williams, Tom Crean, and Wade. But Im sure there are a lot more that you just had no idea about.
Frank Martin leading South Carolina never played college basketball and hes a final 4 coach too....
This post was edited on 3/28/17 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:32 pm to Gumbyxl
Will Wade
Roy Williams (played jv)
Scott Drew
Buzz Williams
Mick Cronin
Tom Crean
Roy Williams (played jv)
Scott Drew
Buzz Williams
Mick Cronin
Tom Crean
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:33 pm to The Truth 34
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It's still not something that looks good on paper.
Remember John Pelphrey? He doesn't appear to be a black hole on Avery Johnson's staff.
Posted on 3/28/17 at 2:33 pm to Gumbyxl
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For Pete's sake, Will Wade was a ball boy yet afforded to learn the game from the exclusive from powerful men in charge. African Americans seldom get this sort of opportunity.
I just addressed that Wade's first opportunities in coaching were given to him by black coaches. Are you going to blame them now?
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