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Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:22 pm to Books
More moving of DT to OT would think it would be easier to just recruit guys that played this position instead of switching and then teaching them lol
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:22 pm to Books
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prob 3rd
So, to be clear, you are saying he's the 5th or 6th DT right now?
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3rd string DL are more valuable than third string OL
Either way, barring injury, he wouldn't get much playing time. I don't understand why you would complain about a 3rd string DT being moved to offense if that was his best position. It would basically have no effect on this year's team.
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:23 pm to Books
Gawd, Drayton Calhoun will now be the next John Williams...keep him at RB 
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:26 pm to moneyg
quote:my guess is he's in the three deep coming off his first year on a bum knee
So, to be clear, you are saying he's the 5th or 6th DT right now?
quote:b/c LSU is not stacked at DT and he's basically giving up on a kid that has a lot of talent after less than one year. Some PT and more reps this year at DT (which are a lot harder to find), if nothing else, builds for the future. Crazy concept huh?
Either way, barring injury, he wouldn't get much playing time. I don't understand why you would complain about a 3rd string DT being moved to offense if that was his best position. It would basically have no effect on this year's team.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:37 pm to Books
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b/c LSU is not stacked at DT and he's basically giving up on a kid that has a lot of talent after less than one year. Some PT and more reps this year at DT (which are a lot harder to find), if nothing else, builds for the future. Crazy concept huh?
I had high hopes for Davenport at DT, like you.
But, I'm not so dumb as to think I can make a judgement on him without ever having seen him play. I think it's crazy to assume that the coaching staff is ignoring some potential they see at DT and just whimsically considering moving him to OG. If they really want to move him, there is a reason for it. You seem to be ignoring that.
Assuming that the coaching staff truly wanted to move Davenport, the news here isn't that they are being hasty. The news is that Davenport isn't looking like he's going to be that great player we had all hoped given his high school credentials.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:40 pm to thunderbird1100
Am I the only person that wasn't impressed by Calhoun's video at RB? He looked like he was fast and that was about it to me. No moves and went down easy. I think he was going to CB all along.
I'm not sure what to think about Davenport and the DT position in general.
I'm not sure what to think about Davenport and the DT position in general.
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:43 pm to moneyg
I'm not making a judgement on his play, but on LM moving him so quick from a spot of importance to one that's not as much. I'm sure they have their reasons, but doesn't mean it's guaranteed to be a sound one. In the past I was a lot more willing to give LM the benefit of the doubt than after watching the shite show that the last two yrs have been at times. And again, just bc the guy hasn't burst onto the scene in less than one year, doesn't mean he can't be developed into one. He's got 4 more years.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:48 pm to supatigah
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I love how message board posters question coaches with 10 to 20yrs first hand playing/coaching experience and see the players every day in practice
You do? Well what did all that experiance do for our offense last year?
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:50 pm to Books
Haven't read this whole thread, but assuming he moves what would we have at DT?
Nevis
Levingston
Downs
Brockers
Logan
Copeland
Anyone else?
Then we'll lose two after this season and pick up at least three. I think the future of the position looks much better than it has, with or without Davenport.
Nevis
Levingston
Downs
Brockers
Logan
Copeland
Anyone else?
Then we'll lose two after this season and pick up at least three. I think the future of the position looks much better than it has, with or without Davenport.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 9:53 pm to Books
They are going to this approach much too often. Does LM really expect to have this succeed this often? Why not recruit true position players you are lacking?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:05 pm to Books
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And again, just bc the guy hasn't burst onto the scene in less than one year, doesn't mean he can't be developed into one. He's got 4 more years.
So do the guys that they think are more promising at that position (allegedly) right?
Like I said earlier, we are discussing this under the assumption that the coaching staff really wanted to move Davenport. They may have been 50/50 on him and just posed it to him to see what he wanted to do. They may have been throwing it out there to motivate him (assuming that motivation was a problem for Davenport). There are a lot of potential reasons for the Miles' comments.
But, under the assumption that the coaching staff was certain that they wanted to move him, then the real information is that Davenport isn't what we all hoped.
I mean, listen to what you are accusing Miles of. He's a guy who has been loyal to his players to a fault...to be very slow to give a guy with more natural talent a job over a guy who had less upside but was developed over time. Now, you think he's giving up on players too soon? That just doesn't make sense.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 10:58 pm to moneyg
big athelitic guys are more often put on the d-line in high school. Unless you are a complete stiff you generally will play d-line in high school. But that doesn't mean that is the best position he is suited for in college, or the pros, if he would ever get that far. Maybe the coaches have seen enough to conclude he is best suited for the O-line. Shouldn't he be moved as early in his career as possible to the position that gives him the best chance to be successfull? We need big bodies on the o-line and maybe by his junior or senior year he could be a major contributer at the position.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 3:38 am to Pilot Tiger
The staff is responsible to develop and or move the players into a role that will benefit them and the team. If Davenport was asked but turned down the approach then it is up to him to deliver . If he rides the pine he may have a change of heart. However Miles needs to do a better job of selling the kid that this is best for him. Looks like he does not sold on Miles and the staff moving him. Like I have said before Miles is payed 4 Mill to deliver the goods. It will all play out this year.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 3:59 am to moneyg
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There are a lot of potential reasons for the Miles' comments.
Possibly he's changed his tune about the 9-09 best O-line ever fielded, and is scrambling for new puzzle pieces. He may have a want for 325lb OL since things aren't working out to his earlier vision. I too have more concern for OL play than DL atm.
Posted on 2/25/10 at 7:24 am to Books
First, I commend Miles for allowing the kid to play where his heart his. Second, it's not uncommon for switches like this to occur. The staff have seen this kid play a lot more than us or any recruiting service and maybe Les is right and thinks that he would make a heck of an OL or contribute to the "team" more there.
Our RS freshman OT and #1 rated OT prospect DJ Fluker is going to start the spring at NG and lots of us our scratching our heads wondering what in the hell Nick is thinking.....
Our RS freshman OT and #1 rated OT prospect DJ Fluker is going to start the spring at NG and lots of us our scratching our heads wondering what in the hell Nick is thinking.....
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:24 am to CrimsonChin
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Our RS freshman OT and #1 rated OT prospect DJ Fluker is going to start the spring at NG and lots of us our scratching our heads wondering what in the hell Nick is thinking.....
6'7" 340 takes up a lot of space....kinda like a mountain get the hint....i wouldnt question anything that man does...he's earned it...
Posted on 2/25/10 at 9:53 am to moneyg
quote:he's shown to be overly loyal to Sr's/upperclassmen that's not relevant here
I mean, listen to what you are accusing Miles of. He's a guy who has been loyal to his players to a fault...
This post was edited on 2/25/10 at 9:54 am
Posted on 2/25/10 at 11:40 am to Books
the guy needs to leave the damn DL alone, were already thin at DT, let him grow up get stronger, faster etc..we dont need anymore OL, we have a shitload of young good ones...he didnt play against any competition and he man-handled 190lbs lineman in 2A...let him grow up and figure it out and leave him at DT...if he works hard and gets better he'll play, if he doesnt leave his arse on the scout team...
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