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re: I appreciate what D1 baseball is trying to do
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:17 am to Willie Stroker
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:17 am to Willie Stroker
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How does every other game get televised without my SEC streaming package covering the cost?
Some of us just won’t pay an extra $30 for 3 games when the other 65 games take no additional effort and have no additional cost.
If I can pay an extra $10 per month on Sling during baseball season and get all but 3 games, paying an additional $30 for 3 games is an easy pass.
This, what people need to understand making the other side of the argument here is while that may be what they have to charge to run the streaming and try and make a profit themselves at the event...these events requiring these 1 time streaming sub costs is EXTREMELY anti-consumer for a sport frankly that isnt that popular to begin with (yes obviously VERY popular to us, but freaking womens college basketball out draws views routinely vs. college baseball as well, just as a comparison point here).
I understand the reasoning for wanting to play in these early season neutral site tournaments from a coaching/player standpoint, but when none of all the bunch of stuff we already pay for cant cover the games and we're forced an extra $30 ($25 with a code!, whoopie) out of pocket to pay for 3 games to watch it just screams anti-fan and anti-consumer. It's not to blame for D1 if thats what they have to charge to even be able to come to making money for covering an event like that, but it doesnt mean it isnt still extremely anti-fan and anti-consumer we have to fork out $25-$30 extra to watch just 3 more games out of the 60+ we'll watch on stuff we already pay for the rest of the season.
I dont even think its a matter of pure cost, even if it was $10, it's still pretty anti-consumer/anti-fan to run that kind of approach. Yeah some people would care less to pay $10 than $25-$30, but its not breaking the bank either way for anyone really. It's just a matter of - why, why is this what we have to do?
On top of it all, the previous 2 years the streaming was a shite show, and people paid $25-$30 for that over 3 games, even more infuriating. People paying that for just 3 games to watch certainly expect at least the quality of the stuff they pay way less for, if not should get better, but even this year the quality was certainly worse than ESPN/SEC broadcasts we have (which isnt surprising at all, just pointing out the obvious).
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 10:20 am
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Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:26 am to thunderbird1100
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I understand the reasoning for wanting to play in these early season neutral site tournaments from a coaching/player standpoint, but when none of all the bunch of stuff we already pay for cant cover the games and we're forced an extra $30 ($25 with a code!, whoopie) out of pocket to pay for 3 games to watch it just screams anti-fan and anti-consumer. It's not to blame for D1 if thats what they have to charge to even be able to come to making money for covering an event like that, but it doesnt mean it isnt still extremely anti-fan and anti-consumer we have to fork out $25-$30 extra to watch just 3 more games out of the 60+ we'll watch on stuff we already pay for the rest of the season.
I dont even think its a matter of pure cost, even if it was $10, it's still pretty anti-consumer/anti-fan to run that kind of approach. Yeah some people would care less to pay $10 than $25-$30, but its not breaking the bank either way for anyone really. It's just a matter of - why, why is this what we have to do?
To add to this, it's complete bullshite that they sell it as $30 for access to all the games at all the tournaments, without also offering a piecemeal version to buy just one tournament or one team's games.
They know that very few people will watch more than just their own teams games. They also know that they only play the tournaments on two weekends so you can't even watch every game. And (I didn't test this, so I may be wrong) with the access code thing, I think it made it more difficult to have two devices streaming at the same time so even if you wanted to watch concurrent games at different tournaments, you weren't allowed to.
What they basically did was have LSU fans pay $30 (or $25) to basically fund the streaming at all the tournaments because none of the other ones would have gotten there on their own.
ETA: On the women's basketball thing, it's only more popular now because it's been shoved down peoples throats for 30 years because it has always been comparatively cheap to broadcast and fits neatly into a 2 hour broadcast window.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 10:29 am
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:32 am to thunderbird1100
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we're forced an extra $30
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why, why is this what we have to do?
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but it doesnt mean it isnt still extremely anti-fan and anti-consumer we have to fork out $25-$30 extra to watch just 3 more games
You actually don't have to do anything you don't want to do. Problem solved
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:35 am to ProjectP2294
I was just glad to have a way to watch. $30 well spent as far as I'm concerned. Cancelled my D1 subscription this morning.
Looking forward to the next game.
Looking forward to the next game.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 10:42 am to MorbidTheClown
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I was just glad to have a way to watch. $30 well spent as far as I'm concerned.
I'm also glad to have been able to watch. I just have significant issues with the way they market it and how they only offer one pricing option.
And I understand it has to make sense financially for them to do it at all, and that no one else was coming to the table to air these tournaments. But their willingness to be the only provider shouldn't excuse away the shitty parts of it, that are within in their control.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:06 am to ProjectP2294
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And I understand it has to make sense financially for them to do it at all, and that no one else was coming to the table to air these tournaments.
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But their willingness to be the only provider shouldn't excuse away the shitty parts of it, that are within in their control.
The money is what you are bitching about essentially, but you answered your own question about that. They can't control how many fans of these other teams pay to watch the games therefor they aren't going to offer a discount to watch the games you want to only. Ok they didn't market it the way you wanted... whoopdee doo! Such a weird thing to have significant issues with
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:10 am to WigSplitta22
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The money is what you are bitching about essentially, but you answered your own question about that. They can't control how many fans of these other teams pay to watch the games therefor they aren't going to offer a discount to watch the games you want to only. Ok they didn't market it the way you wanted... whoopdee doo! Such a weird thing to have significant issues with
You're intellectually dishonesty yourself, so it's no wonder why you would have no issue with it on their end.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 11:19 am to WigSplitta22
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The money is what you are bitching about essentially, but you answered your own question about tha
To be fair, D1 notoriously structures their pricing to pull more money from SEC teams.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 12:02 pm to WigSplitta22
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You actually don't have to do anything you don't want to do. Problem solved
You have to pay the extra $25-$30 to watch the games, unless you attend the games probably not much more than that.
Thought that point was pretty obvious. As extreme fans of baseball, who obviously would love to watch every game imaginable, yes you're forced to fork out the extra $$ IF you want to watch these games, that's simply a fact. It's not up for opinion there.
Also, for the sake of the sport these things do nothing to help the exposure of it. Oh a casual might want to watch these actually good games but has to pay out an extra $25-$30? They will pass every time on that rather than just firing up the ESPN app which we all already pay for to watch 95% of the games.
In the end, again, these just end up not promoting the sport more, and are very much anti-fan/consumer when you have to fork out so much extra money to watch these games, and they're actually interesting games to watch during OOC play especially.
It just feels like a massive cash squeeze out of something that isnt even that popular to begin with which is what is most odd about it. I have no problem affording $25-$30 for a few games (As does probably 90-95% of any LSU fan), but just never paying for something like on the principle of the matter this just being a very anti-consumer practice the way its setup. The streams being garbage the 2 previous years certainly didnt help the case. As I said previously, if you expect people to pony up $25-$30 for a few college baseball games, it better look freaking amazing, and it never has, including this year when they at least fixed a ton of problems previously they had.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 2/23/26 at 12:56 pm to ProjectP2294
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You're intellectually dishonesty yourself,
Posted on 2/23/26 at 1:01 pm to thunderbird1100
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As extreme fans of baseball, who obviously would love to watch every game imaginable, yes you're forced to fork out the extra $$ IF you want to watch these games, that's simply a fact. It's not up for opinion there.
It's not a necessity. Once you understand that then you will feel better about it, fanatic or not.
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if you expect people to pony up $25-$30 for a few college baseball games, it better look freaking amazing, and it never has, including this year when they at least fixed a ton of problems previously they had.
Looked great for me all 3 games. Money well spent
Posted on 2/23/26 at 1:41 pm to WigSplitta22
Some of you guys are very spoiled.
I remember way back when as a student we piled into the Gym Armory to watch LSU play ND on closed circuit tv. I forget if we paid or not, but there was no over the air tv.
Then tv started televising games on cable tv. You could buy the game at home, or you could go meet a friend or friends at a local establishment who charged a cover charge. This pay per view arrangement was great. Very few games were on free tv.
We gladly paid to see LSU play. It was either that or travel or listen on the radio.
Times have certainly changed for the better, but once in a while you may not like the results.
I remember way back when as a student we piled into the Gym Armory to watch LSU play ND on closed circuit tv. I forget if we paid or not, but there was no over the air tv.
Then tv started televising games on cable tv. You could buy the game at home, or you could go meet a friend or friends at a local establishment who charged a cover charge. This pay per view arrangement was great. Very few games were on free tv.
We gladly paid to see LSU play. It was either that or travel or listen on the radio.
Times have certainly changed for the better, but once in a while you may not like the results.
Posted on 2/23/26 at 1:51 pm to WigSplitta22
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It's not a necessity. Once you understand that then you will feel better about it, fanatic or not.
It's 100% a necessity if you want to watch the games, why are you trying to frame it any other way.
You dont pay the $25-$30 for the streaming service, you get no baseball games this past weekend. Therefore it's a NECESSITY to pay that $25-$30 to watch the games.
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Looked great for me all 3 games. Money well spent
It took all of maybe 5-6 minutes watching highlights on wheels channel to realize it's definitely still notably worse than all the ESPN broadcasts. Notably worse camera work, no velocity on pitches, no stats for players shown, etc...Hecl we got the benefit of bad camera work on Yorke's HR that almost for sure wasnt quite a HR but they didnt have good enough camera work to show for replay otherwise if it did hit below the yellow line
I know you're trying to white knight for d1 here (for whatever reason), and I'm not angry at D1 for doing what they have to do to make a living. Just pointing the obvious here that this kind of setup is anti-consumer/anti-fan having to pay $25-$30 to watch these 3 particular games on a weekend on a notably worse broadcast than we get for everything else. You can pay $30 for a full month of ESPN unlimited if thats all you want and watch every single LSU game in March - that's 19 total games, for $30. In the end, it's just a shitty place to shove a fanbase.
This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 2/23/26 at 8:39 pm to thunderbird1100
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This post was edited on 2/23/26 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 2/23/26 at 8:48 pm to lsu711
I believe that one weekend a year happens again in two weeks.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:13 am to Yeti_Chaser
Sounds like the stream actually worked well this year but I still have no intention to purchase until they have a proper streaming app on roku or firestick.
If you are going to charge 30 bucks that is the minimum service needed. Fricking louisiana high school athletics has an app for roku to stream live games for free so no reason D1 doesn't, especially if they are trying to grow a legit service.
If you are going to charge 30 bucks that is the minimum service needed. Fricking louisiana high school athletics has an app for roku to stream live games for free so no reason D1 doesn't, especially if they are trying to grow a legit service.
This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 5:14 am
Posted on 2/24/26 at 5:51 am to thunderbird1100
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we're forced an extra $30 ($25 with a code!, whoopie) out of pocket to pay for 3 games to watch it just screams anti-fan and anti-consumer. It's not to blame for D1 if thats what they have to charge to even be able to come to making money for covering an event like that, but it doesnt mean it isnt still extremely anti-fan and anti-consumer
You’re right. And you correctly point out that it’s not D1’s fault. If there is fault it lies with Jay. He is taking the money knowing it is coming from his fans. And many of the same fans criticize LSU for not giving baseball a bigger cut of revenue share. Maybe this is just a money problem and Jay is doing his best to fill the gap.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 9:39 am to ProjectP2294
Thanks and to be fair, Kendall emailed me this morning and told me the same thing.
Posted on 2/24/26 at 10:23 am to thunderbird1100
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It's 100% a necessity if you want to watch the games, why are you trying to frame it any other way.
It's a necessity for you to survive? You may want to take break from sports
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Therefore it's a NECESSITY to pay that $25-$30 to watch the games.
My god you sound like a woman. If you have an issue then don't buy it. It's that simple. Kendall doesn't care about you nearly as much as you think he does.
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It took all of maybe 5-6 minutes watching highlights on wheels channel to realize it's definitely still notably worse than all the ESPN broadcasts. Notably worse camera work, no velocity on pitches, no stats for players shown, etc...Hecl we got the benefit of bad camera work on Yorke's HR that almost for sure wasnt quite a HR but they didnt have good enough camera work to show for replay otherwise if it did hit below the yellow line
Spoiled af. Again don't buy it next year. This is the third year and here you are still bitching like a female. The quality was fine. Oh no the camera shook 5 times during a 3 hour broadcast. Once you realize NOBODY else wants to broadcast these games so you wouldn't be watching shite if it weren't for D1 then maybe you will understand. ESPN isn't contractually obligated to broadcast them. They don't give two shits about college baseball. The only reason you watch them on there is because they have a contract for all sports.
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You can pay $30 for a full month of ESPN unlimited if thats all you want and watch every single LSU game in March - that's 19 total games, for $30. In the end, it's just a shitty place to shove a fanbase.
Being overly emotional about $30 is just weird .
This post was edited on 2/24/26 at 10:24 am
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