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Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
1259 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:36 pm to
I've been reading the Jake Slaughter debate for 2 years, as well as other similar players. Lets be real honest. A lot of LSU baseball fans are "old school baseball people". They think batting .300 (even if that is all singles), not striking out, and not making errors on routine plays (even if they never make a spectacular play) makes a good baseball player. Maybe these "old school baseball people" are right-- but nobody in Major League Baseball agrees with them. Slugging percentage is the most important stat in baseball. On base percentage is second. Nobody cares about batting average. Nobody cares if you strike out looking dumb once or twice a game. Nobody cares if you make a throwing error on a routine play every few games (especially if you make up for it with a spectacular play). If you can't OPS at .750 or above, you aren't good. It doesn't matter how good you are at defense or not striking out or hitting singles. Too many LSU baseball fans still want to judge players based on how often they "look dumb" (or don't) versus actual tangible metrics that matter towards winning baseball games.

Broussard had an OPS of .639. Hughes had an OPS of .581. These dudes can't start at LSU if you want to win a national title. Hell, even Reid had an OPS of .721 (thanks to 19 walks in 79 plate appearances). Slaughter had an OPS of .778. It's not close as to who's the best between those 4.
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11610 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Broussard


Had the highest BA on the team before he got hurt.

For every Krob there is a Slaughter. And there are few Krobs.

It’s not like he didn’t get playing time, over Reid, which I agree with but he didn’t produce. Not like he could have. It was the right move.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

It sounds like there may have been an issue with the family (particularly his dad) thinking Slaughter was taking too much heat at LSU


Someone should have told his dad that the rant is a joke, and not to listen to people on here.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
76372 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Slugging percentage is the most important stat in baseball. On base percentage is second.


OBP is about 1.8 times more valuable than slugging, in terms of run production. Power plays though because 1 home run is more good than 3 strikeouts are bad.

Slaughter really cut his K rate as the season went on. He upped his walk rate. His K rate in general, while high relative to LSU players, was still better than NCAA average.

I don't think people realize how little LSU strikes out as a team. It made Slaughter look to the average fan like he was striking out all the time, but in reality, that wasn't the case.

The other thing he did was hit into a ton of double plays. Contrary to what some here would tell you, that's not an indicator of poor talent. Usually means you're hitting the ball hard. But they're memorable and negative, so it shaded the perception of him.
Posted by Dtiger19
Member since Dec 2007
823 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

It’s not like he didn’t get playing time, over Reid, which I agree with but he didn’t produce. Not like he could have. It was the right move.

Did you watch the last 6 weeks of the season? Dude produced. Like the poster above said you must just be looking only at BA. if not I’m not sure how you act like Broussard is a player and Slaughter can’t produce. Broussard didn’t do shot when it mattered in SEC play.
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11610 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:51 pm to
Sounds like the dad has an big ego about his son. And even though his son was giving playing time and didn’t put up good stats and still complains.

Nothing I hate more than those with big egos and have nothing to back it up with except telling us more how awesome they are.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:52 pm to
Ican believe PM told 3 of these guys to sign.
Not sure I believe that about Cam.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62051 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

He has speed?



He could roll in high school. Scored 30+ TDs his junior year at OCS. I couldn't tell you why that didn't translate into stolen bases for LSU.
Posted by Checkbox
Member since May 2018
20 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:08 pm to
Correct
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3588 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:16 pm to
I always pulled hard for Jake but ended up banging my head against the wall a lot, too.

To me he never, ever looked confident at the plate or in the field.

He always looked sort of down on himself.

However, in recent years, I can't remember many years since Skip left that we had a ton of guys walking up to the plate like they were going to rape the pitcher's sister or mother either. Soft, in other words.
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
1259 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

To me he never, ever looked confident at the plate or in the field.

He always looked sort of down on himself.


I completely agree with your subjective analysis. That still doesn't change the fact that we don't have better options statistically though.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14873 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:32 pm to
JS, in his last 31 games, had a .291BA and 6 HR's.

I am sorry to see him go but if family was a problem I can see why PM advised he leave.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51361 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

What am I missing?



Making room for Turang
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
11610 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

we don't have better options statistically though


Newcomers are unknowns but

Statically though, can they be much worse?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54927 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:52 pm to
OCS high school ball definitely compares to LSU and SEC competition

OCS plays in lowest classification they can dominate and they hold kids back, I guess he did put up those numbers at OCS
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40154 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

I don't get Jake Slaughter leaving
Have you ever quit a job for another job?
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
11786 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 2:59 pm to
Who cares why.. just be thankful he is
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9019 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 3:03 pm to
quote:

His dad went on tweeter



Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10272 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 3:50 pm to
Also, TRant dogged him out of town basically.
Posted by LuapGibb
Walker, LA
Member since Jul 2009
558 posts
Posted on 6/8/18 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Yall do realize that Slaughter was our 4th best hitter at the end of the season huh? Watson, Duplantis, and Cabrera were the only 3 better... 



Didn't he only hit somewhere around 3 for 23 in the SEC Tournament? Let's not act like he was lighting it up at the end.
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