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re: I'm really trying to understand why McMahon's teams are so bad
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:03 pm to JWill409
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:03 pm to JWill409
yunno what sucks is the way sports work now is even in this lost season I cant find some joy in watching the development of players for next year.
normally I would be pleased by thinking about which guys are pretty good and will return next year. but now whole team leaves every year and its pointless to care who is improving. all our fun is ruined and our existence is bleak and meaningless.
normally I would be pleased by thinking about which guys are pretty good and will return next year. but now whole team leaves every year and its pointless to care who is improving. all our fun is ruined and our existence is bleak and meaningless.
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Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:04 pm to KingofthePoint
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This has been the excuse every year.
No, the first couple of years were the wade fallout and sanctions. Last year was lack of spending and reeds injury.
This year he lost his two best players.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:06 pm to whatiknowsofar
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You can't lose your best players and do well
TTU just lost reigning B12 POTY winner who was viewed as a legit Wooden Award Finalist and still won their next two games by double digits. Stop with the excuses.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:10 pm to More beer please
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TTU just lost reigning B12 POTY winner who was viewed as a legit Wooden Award Finalist and still won their next two games by double digits. Stop with the excuses.
Is 2>1? LSU lost their two best players. And let's not act like theyre getting blown out every game. They arent. They simply lack the talent due to injury.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:10 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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This is a false narrative, as bad as we are, we at least give 100% if you're watching the games
This feels like the Chris Rock bit (which won't be posted for obvious reasons
) "They give 100%" You're SUPPOSED to give 100% you dumb MFer!" That's not something a team should get credited for quote:
I'm not saying they don't play hard or that they don't like McMahon. I'm just saying that overall, I don't see a super-inspired bunch giving an effort so great that it makes you forget about their overall talent level. It's just not there. The proof is in the record. We had a few games that I thought we played above what I expected, but that is not the norm and we still lost
Go watch teams like Houston, or Florida, or UConn, etc and watch the energy they play with. Guys are getting on floor. They are crashing the glass. Watch the they cut off the ball with suddenness and purpose. Watch how they close out to shooters with effort. When they press its with a purpose and effort.
LSU sets a ball screen then everyone just kind of looks at one another hoping someone will move. When is the last time McMahon has pressed in a game? If he's down 10 with 2:00 to go he basically just gives up. MAYBE he throws in a half hearted zone press. But there's never any frantic energy. That's why LSU has had very few great comebacks in his tenure (at least that ended with an actual win...not a moral victory). He coaches with zero passion and the product on the floor mirrors that.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:10 pm to Lucado
Disregard anything those dummies Pirate King and tigersbb tell you about McMahon and his lack of success. Without even reading this thread, I can guarantee you they'll be making excuses about injuries and lack of NIL. Why? Because they're both idiots who have no clue what they're talking about, especially pirate queef.
McMahon just isn't a good coach. He's taken a $10 million roster this year and ended up the same place he has his entire tenure here except for one, where he finished .500 in conference play.
It's not rocket science. His offensive sets are poor and the main offense he runs is very elementary. He doesn't teach great fundamentals, which leads to things like lazy defense and lots of fouls. End of half and end of game coaching is atrocious.
For example, when we played Tennessee a couple weeks back, the last 5 or so minutes of the game saw McMahon get absolutely embarrassed by Rick Barnes. The icing on the cake was with a minute or so left in the game, Barnes switched defenses and McMahon didn't even think to prepare his team for something like that. So, what happens? Well, being down only a few points at the time and needing to hurry up, it ends up where we have to dribble out for around 20 or 30 seconds while our PG sets up an offense that ends up in a terrible shot selection because so much time was wasted we ended up rushing a shot. By the end of that, so much time was wasted the game was all but over.
He also has no clue how to structure a roster. His lineups and substitutions are horrible, which leads to scratching your head about why so and so isn't in the game or why did he take so and so out of the game when they were on a roll. Also, there always seems to be an important player out for a stretch of games during the middle of the season for reasons usually unknown. He's let far too many players leave instead of developing them, though to be fair I'm not sure most players want to return after a year around McMahon. Can't think of too many who stuck around off the top of my head except for Reed.
I could go on and on because it's been so bad. There's honestly not one thing that's been redeeming about his time here. You don't get to an historically bad record by simply having a couple injuries or a lack of NIL. Even bad coaches can get wins when those issues arise. The problem is McMahon is a terrible coach who can't get anything extra out of his players.
Good news for LSU basketball is that his time here is almost up. Probably a year overdue, but better late than never, I suppose.
McMahon just isn't a good coach. He's taken a $10 million roster this year and ended up the same place he has his entire tenure here except for one, where he finished .500 in conference play.
It's not rocket science. His offensive sets are poor and the main offense he runs is very elementary. He doesn't teach great fundamentals, which leads to things like lazy defense and lots of fouls. End of half and end of game coaching is atrocious.
For example, when we played Tennessee a couple weeks back, the last 5 or so minutes of the game saw McMahon get absolutely embarrassed by Rick Barnes. The icing on the cake was with a minute or so left in the game, Barnes switched defenses and McMahon didn't even think to prepare his team for something like that. So, what happens? Well, being down only a few points at the time and needing to hurry up, it ends up where we have to dribble out for around 20 or 30 seconds while our PG sets up an offense that ends up in a terrible shot selection because so much time was wasted we ended up rushing a shot. By the end of that, so much time was wasted the game was all but over.
He also has no clue how to structure a roster. His lineups and substitutions are horrible, which leads to scratching your head about why so and so isn't in the game or why did he take so and so out of the game when they were on a roll. Also, there always seems to be an important player out for a stretch of games during the middle of the season for reasons usually unknown. He's let far too many players leave instead of developing them, though to be fair I'm not sure most players want to return after a year around McMahon. Can't think of too many who stuck around off the top of my head except for Reed.
I could go on and on because it's been so bad. There's honestly not one thing that's been redeeming about his time here. You don't get to an historically bad record by simply having a couple injuries or a lack of NIL. Even bad coaches can get wins when those issues arise. The problem is McMahon is a terrible coach who can't get anything extra out of his players.
Good news for LSU basketball is that his time here is almost up. Probably a year overdue, but better late than never, I suppose.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:12 pm to Lucado
I think he’s not a SEC coach, too nice, most good basketball Coaches have a little “sketchy” to them. Now after 3.5yrs aside from the putrid record there’s no way he can attract any talent. He’ll get another job without the pressure and probably be better off. He’s a good Coach probably as good as some other Coaches in P4 but just doesn’t have the moxie for LSU. Good Xs & Os guy, but lacks the fire to recruit, add excitement, and needs a little ahole in him. I give him hell but not personal, it’s just I can’t understand the amount of “rope” he’s has been given compared to every other coaches at LSU.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:14 pm to Lucado
Poor talent evaluator and even poorer coach of X’s and O’s.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:15 pm to Lucado
McMahon seems like a nice guy, but watch his teams play compared to good teams. There is a lack of toughness, and his teams don’t ever seem to get better as the season goes on.
Defenders can’t seem to keep their men in front of them. McKinnon is great on the offensive end, but his defense is awful. There also is a lack of effort on the boards.
His teams are soft and make losing plays.
Defenders can’t seem to keep their men in front of them. McKinnon is great on the offensive end, but his defense is awful. There also is a lack of effort on the boards.
His teams are soft and make losing plays.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:17 pm to UnluckyTiger
He only needs the guys to run his system. You know, the system that got LSU to the NIT one year of out 4 when 2/3rds of the SEC made the real tournament.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:18 pm to whatiknowsofar
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LSU lost their two best players
Jalen Reed draft profile:
Inconsistent big whose stock really skyrocketed after blowing out his knee and Achilles
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And let's not act like theyre getting blown out every game
That will be in the McMahon media guide when he eventually ends up at some school in the Big South no one has ever heard of. "After a great tenue at Murray State, he spent (hopefully just) 4 years at LSU...where his teams didn't get blown out every game."
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:19 pm to whatiknowsofar
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wade fallout
This would’ve been an excuse in 2015. The portal has been a thing for years now.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:20 pm to kingbob
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Mediocre free-throw percentage late in games causes them to get boat raced in close games inside 2 minutes. This is a preparedness issue. The only reason for struggling at free throws is not spending enough time in and outside of practice shooting them.
McMahon is too busy trying to beat his record of 45 free throws in a row that the rest of the team doesn't have time to practice.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:22 pm to saint tiger225
I love how Jalen Reed is considered some superstar the last two seasons probably would’ve averaged 13 ppg and 7 rpg.
probably would’ve averaged 13 ppg and 7 rpg. 
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:23 pm to Lucado
He seemed to be decent at getting talent pre-NIL.
He does not seem to do as well now.
He was hired at LSU in the first year that NIL was legal.
I do not know if that is the issue or part of the issue, but I suspect a few of the crash-and-burn coaches since 2022 have resulted from poorly negotiating the new NIL landscape.
He does not seem to do as well now.
He was hired at LSU in the first year that NIL was legal.
I do not know if that is the issue or part of the issue, but I suspect a few of the crash-and-burn coaches since 2022 have resulted from poorly negotiating the new NIL landscape.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:37 pm to JWill409
You must have missed the Mississippi State and Arkansas games where they treated LSU like an AAU team.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:39 pm to saintsfan22
quote:The HC is out of his element and IN WAY OVER HIS HEAD at this level.
Soft, can't shoot, can't play defense.
The same for ALL of the Assistants as well
None of them should be coaching at an SEC school
It's a Staff full of basketball Brad Davis's and just about as bad as it gets.
ALMOST OVER THOUGH. NOT MUCH LONGER.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:39 pm to Lucado
This year in particular?
3pt shooting non existent outside of Mackinnon.
Lack of creativity on the offensive end
Nobody that can create their own shot or draw double teams
3pt shooting non existent outside of Mackinnon.
Lack of creativity on the offensive end
Nobody that can create their own shot or draw double teams
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:40 pm to saint tiger225
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Disregard anything those dummies Pirate King and tigersbb tell you about McMahon and his lack of success. Without even reading this thread, I can guarantee you they'll be making excuses about injuries and lack of NIL. Why? Because they're both idiots who have no clue what they're talking about, especially pirate queef.
I read through the thread and like clockwork, those 2 are in this thread making those same excuses.
McMahon was funded really well this season and anyone who says he/this team wasn't are just being obtuse or outright dishonest. As I said the other day, this team has enough talent to not only make the tournament, but possibly win a game in the tourney depending on matchup, obviously.
This was McMahon's all in year. Despite his lack of results, lack of fundraising and lack of any excitement around the program, he was given enough NIL to make it work. And what's happened after being given $10 million to fund the roster? He's had his worst season here yet, especially considering the budget he was given. I'm guessing he probably had to overpay a player or 2 as well, because with not only a lack of success, but an overall abysmal product since he's been here, not many players want to come play for a coach who's one claim to fame is "Ja Morant".
It's funny seeing these same guys use the same excuses year after year. They literally said the exact same things after last year. Then, when he was given an increased NIL budget and with some of the players he brought in every single one of them said "this is the year, there are no more excuses." Now look at them, using the same lame excuses as if they're talking to idiots.
The issues with the team were evident very early on in the season when we were winning, but many here didn't want to listen because we were winning. Those of us who were concerned and voiced those concerns were told we weren't LSU fans and just hated to see McMahon succeed.
Anywho, it's not a surprise to see the same people make the same excuses. They'll do anything but lay the blame at the feet of the actual problem. You don't get to McMahon's record here by simply a lack of NIL funding or an injury or 2. No, this is historic levels of suck and that falls directly on the head coach. He's terrible.
Posted on 2/25/26 at 5:42 pm to Lucado
He only focuses on half court offense. We don’t really do anything on D, we’re not a pressure team, we don’t defend the basket well, we haven’t been a good rebounding team. So we’re one sided and very narrow on that side in terms of what we do. We’re also very poor in situational basketball and fundamentals. Again the rebounding which has a lot to do with always being out of position because of poor defense. Even the way we defend screens lacks fundamental foot placement on hedges or traps which is why they never seem to get offenses out of sync. His teams are typically turnover prone, we’re poor in transition on both ends so we can’t really commit extra bodies to the offensive boards. We’re also never able to dictate pace or style to other teams, we’re always overwhelmed in that area outside of one or two games I can remember.
This post was edited on 2/25/26 at 5:50 pm
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