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Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:49 am to skullhawk
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You have to hear what he says after that. It makes it clear he’s talking about the future and not the present. Basically saying the competition in fall camp will make it clear who the best man is and that applies to the entire team.
Exactly this. Man some people on this board need to work on their reading comprehension
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:50 am to skullhawk
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You have to hear what he says after that. It makes it clear he’s talking about the future and not the present. Basically saying the competition in fall camp will make it clear who the best man is and that applies to the entire team.
Yeah, I agree with this. The context was Bobby asking about the selection process and how the eye in the sky doesn't lie. As you say O was referring to how the team will know in the end.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:52 am to GRTiger
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You're wondering why the coaches went hard after the greatest QB in LSU history? They obviously saw something and were proven as correct as they could have been.
He hardly played a down at Ohio State and was an unknown. No one thought he was great after the 2018 season either. He was brought in because the three qbs on the roster weren’t sec caliber. One of them being MB.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:52 am to Nix to Twillie
In Myles' defense he was playing hurt late in the game vs Mizzou.
He was in pain, however, and why he was still in the game with the outcome still unsettled remains a strange thing mystifying, and O should have answered for that. I really think Finley could have got the Tigers across the goalline late in that game.
He was in pain, however, and why he was still in the game with the outcome still unsettled remains a strange thing mystifying, and O should have answered for that. I really think Finley could have got the Tigers across the goalline late in that game.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:53 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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He is just too transparent for his own good sometimes.
I agree. And I think the statement at the beginning of spring where he said (taking about Johnson): "Well, I know this, there's one quarterback on campus that's 2-0, and that's him", was one of those moments he voiced what he was thinking and maybe shouldn't have.
O is a subtle as a sledgehammer. He's not a guy who deftly uses the media to send subtle motivation to his players. He says exactly what he feels. And what he was thinking was: "If I win, I'm a hero here. If I lose, they want me gone immediately. One guy started and we were 1-2 (against pretty weak competition). The other guy started and we were 2-0 against better competition. Two wins that saved me from an embarrassing losing season and cooled the fire under my arse after getting destroyed by Alabama and falling to 3-5"
IMO, if Brennan takes that to heart, busts his arse, and proves he is far and away the better QB, then he will start and O will be fine with it. But I think Johnson is the silent leader in the clubhouse and it is up to Brennan to try to beat him out...not the other way around.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:53 am to bulletprooftiger
I would like to see 2QB system, with Myles starting and Max getting at least one possession per half. If one or the other starts lighting it up, leave them in while they're hot.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:57 am to Gus007
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You asking why Burrow? Which QB, in the last ten years, would have ranked higher than Burrow.
I only ask that in response to anyone who points to Brennan’s arm as a reason he should start. He had a stronger arm than Burrow, so why hasn’t he he started the whole time?
The reasoning is flawed and lazy.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:03 am to GeauxTigas18
Coming directly from Kayshon, he thinks Max is the starter.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:06 am to GeauxTigas18
Terrible O line (?) that is suddenly going to be lights out great a year later less the starting LT.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:06 am to tigerdup07
quote:Couple of things slap dick
yes. it's obviously miles brennan unfortunately.
1) it’s Myles, if you’re going to talk shite about the guy at least get his name right.
2) If he’s obviously better than Max Johnson then we’re a title contender
3) find a new team to root for. Myles has sweat bled and killer himself for LSU. Ungrateful bitch
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:13 am to skullhawk
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He hardly played a down at Ohio State and was an unknown. No one thought he was great after the 2018 season either. He was brought in because the three qbs on the roster weren’t sec caliber. One of them being MB.
EXACTLY
At that point in their careers Brennan had more significant game experience than Burrow. Brennan came in in the 3rd quarter of a 21-10 game vs. Syracuse. He came in the next week vs Troy in the second quarter with LSU down 17-0. He was sent in to try to help save O's arse from an embarrassing loss...at a time when the fanbase had very little confidence in O. Those were VERY pressure packed snaps.
For his part Burrow had ONLY played at the end of blowouts for 3 seasons. You could argue (and Burrow would probably agree) that he had NEVER taken a significant college snap at the time he transferred to LSU. It also wasn't like Burrow was a blue-chip prospect who just being wasted at another school. He was actually pretty sparsely recruited. Brennan was actually a higher ranked prospect coming out of HS.
Yet, at a time when his job security wasn't exactly solid, O thought so little of the 3 QBs he had on the roster at the time (including Brennan....whom he had seen for a year) that he went out and brought in a largely unknown player to be the starting QB for a season that was just 4 months away.
Burrow became arguably the greatest QB in LSU history. But let's not change reality through the lens of revisionist history. Getting him wasn't some moment of clairvoyance where O saw the greatest QB in LSU history just waiting to be signed. Burrow's signing was O thinking after the spring: "what I have here ain't going to cut it and my arse may be looking for a new job after next season if I don't do something fast. So while this kid from Ohio St. doesn't have much of a track record thus far, it can't be much worse than what I have right now."
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:14 am to GeauxTigas18
Max is your starter.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:16 am to skullhawk
Orgeron and the staff just got lucky huh? 
You also continue to apply the skills of an underweight RsSo to a 5th year senior who got to play understudy to one of the greatest QBs in SEC history. "MB wasn't ready for the SEC in 2018, so he's obviously not ready in 2021" isn't the strongest argument, but I understand lines have been drawn and trenches dug.
I'm positive the coaches thought he was great before 2018, but considering what he did the next year, that very much crumbles your argument against MB.
You also continue to apply the skills of an underweight RsSo to a 5th year senior who got to play understudy to one of the greatest QBs in SEC history. "MB wasn't ready for the SEC in 2018, so he's obviously not ready in 2021" isn't the strongest argument, but I understand lines have been drawn and trenches dug.
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No one thought he was great after the 2018 season either.
I'm positive the coaches thought he was great before 2018, but considering what he did the next year, that very much crumbles your argument against MB.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:27 am to GeauxTigas18
It’s all Myles it’s his time max will get chance
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:29 am to geauxtigers87
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fact that you haven't heard anything means it isn't decided
I totally disagree
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:34 am to spiderman
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Coming directly from Kayshon, he thinks Max is the starter.
likewise from JE4
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:40 am to GeauxTigas18
Max Johnson will be the starter.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:43 am to tigerdup07
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unless he's learned a little awareness in the pocket, he may get sacked more than any other q.b. in the history of lsu. he knows how to stand in concrete in the pocket for sure. i don't give a damn how strong your arm is.
- One take away I have from last year is that I saw great improvement in Myles’s pocket awareness from game to game.
- Joe Burrow was the best I’ve seen at LSU for pocket awareness. We likely won’t see that again from anyone.
-We’ve had some good runners who abandoned the pocket too early - they don’t make great quarterbacks.
- Whoever the starter is, I think this board is going to have some complaints about their play after the UCLA game. Win or lose.
- I think many are too quick to bash on Myles and forget how pedestrian Joe Burrow was his first year here until the last few games of 2018. This was after riding the bench for 3 years - basically the same place Myles was last year.
- I don’t know who will end up being the starter, but I know TD won’t be the place where it is decided.
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:53 am to 225Tyga
You haven’t confirmed crap….
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