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Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:49 pm to
Posted by TigerphanTigerman
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 5:49 pm to
UCLA returns every starter on the offensive line. Their QB is pretty good. He is duel threat.

It is possible that the LSU offense isn't clicking on all cylinders in game 1 on the road. A Chip Kelly offensive is going to score points on anyone, and they are going to do it running the ball. It is completely feasible that our defense can't shut down their run game and the defense gases out in the 2nd half similarly to Texas and this ends up being a one possession shoot out. This is UCLAs biggest game in years.

In addition, a UCLA poster either in the thread indicated that their biggest weapon in the pass game is their tight end, who will not be covered by either of our lock down corners. They have a path to win. The Vegas spread is dead on. LSU 35 UCLA 31.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 5:53 pm
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:48 pm to
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And I hate the fact that this will be UCLA's second game.


Gives us a week of game film on them and less rest for them. I see it as an advantage for us.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:08 pm to
I think it being UCLA's second game actually works in our favor. It at least gives us film. Makes them have less time to prepare for us. We can prep for them early and view film.

At this point we have enough experience we shouldn't need reps to be ready. Really think we wear them down in 2nd half especially coming from our humidity to playing in SoCal it gonna feel like AC.

Plus, with Faulk the running game is going to be better than last year-----much better.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 9:15 pm
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:11 pm to
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5 years ago didn't everyone here think we were going to blow Wisconsin out of Lambeau?


Nope Wisconsin has some tough SOB's they were not getting blown out. Now UCLA is not known for its toughness,
SoCal has to much glamor to it to keep the players focused.
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:15 pm to
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Why are so many people worried about fricking UCLA? They went 3-4 in the fricking PAC12 last year.

Those 4 losses were by a total of 15 points.

Y'all can dismiss UCLA if you want, but they've quietly gotten more competitive under Kelly. He "processed" a lot of guys after he got there. A couple of seasons ago, over half their roster were freshmen. At Pac 12 media days this summer, Kelly said this was the first time they had over 80 scholarship players.

I think we'll win, but I'm certainly not expecting it to be a blowout, especially with two new coordinators coaching their first game for us.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:21 pm to
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Y'all can dismiss UCLA if you want, but they've quietly gotten more competitive under Kelly. He "processed" a lot of guys after he got there. A couple of seasons ago, over half their roster were freshmen. At Pac 12 media days this summer, Kelly said this was the first time they had over 80 scholarship players.



UCLA is a middle of the pack P12 team nothing has shown me that Kelly has changed any of that. If we are a 10-2 or 9-3 team this year like we think we should win by 10 or more.

The way you dismiss UCLA is by pounding them on the field and making plays I think we will do that.

Chip gained fame by utilizing Oregon's Nike power to out recruit the Pac 12 and then out score most of the Pac 12.

Unfortunately, for Chip he does not have the same advantage at UCLA.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 9:42 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
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17623 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:43 pm to
Don't get me wrong, I also think we'll eventually win by 10 or more. I just don't think it's going to be easy from the first snap like some other posters do. If we start slow, it could be a tight game.

Like I pointed out, UCLA was in every game they played last season. They also now have more experience, and Athlon has their recruiting ranked 4th in the Pac 12. Beating us would be a huge step for Kelly's rebuild, so I'm expecting their best shot.
Posted by dljtigers
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:44 pm to
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Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 9:48 pm to
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Like I pointed out, UCLA was in every game they played last season. They also now have more experience, and Athlon has their recruiting ranked 4th in the Pac 12. Beating us would be a huge step for Kelly's rebuild, so I'm expecting their best shot.



I agree with this, its not going to be a walk in the park. We will have to make plays and to win the defense is going to have to play a good game, but I think what hurts Chip the most is his inability to run the clock. Did not effect him as much at Oregon as they often scored but UCLA has not shown the ability to score at that level.

That means if we have any kind of running game by the 2nd half there defense will be easier to move on. I think our running game is going to be much better! But, I understand your logic and its not wrong we will have to play a full football game to win by 10.
This post was edited on 8/7/21 at 9:50 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:12 pm to
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I think what hurts Chip the most is his inability to run the clock. Did not effect him as much at Oregon as they often scored but UCLA has not shown the ability to score at that level.

That's a fair assessment. Like Mike Leach, Kelly just runs his offense like he always runs it, no matter the game situation.

Their philosophies have made them winners, but it can bite them in the arse when they don't try to shorten games against more talented teams.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:56 pm to
Terrible argument. You would get kicked off stage with that weak homework
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41596 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:58 pm to
After that embarrassing loss to Wisconsin, which we never should have lost, I will never underestimate an opener opponent
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 10:59 pm to
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Plus, with Faulk the running game is going to be better than last year-----much better.

Faulk with the RB coach last year.
Jesus. Do you people think before you post.


With that said. LSU will win no doubt.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
2106 posts
Posted on 8/7/21 at 11:25 pm to
yes but sometimes it takes a little longer to turn things around. I think Faulk has a better grasp on who he has and what there capabilities are than at the beginning last year.

Plus the change in QB and lack of WR's was a huge reason we could not run the ball. Still need another WR to step up but regardless I think Faulk will make the running game much better. Thanks for helping me think.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 8/7/21 at 11:29 pm to
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Their QB is pretty good. He is duel threat.


Good thing we ain’t sword fightin’
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:07 am to
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I wouldn’t count on this oline wearing anyone down. Hopefully Davis can transform this group.


As long as they can open a few holes and prevent sacks, they won’t have to do that alone. If we can effectively run a fast-paced offense styled more like what we saw in 2019, the pace alone will get to their D by then.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33920 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:12 am to
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Didn't call him great. But he is certainly still capable. He is probably top 25-35 of coaches in CFB right now.


He’s washed up and has no longer has any interest in recruiting on a top P5 level. That’s what’s going to kill them in this game. I’m not saying he’s a bad coach, but he’s not good enough to offset the talent disadvantages he has at UCLA.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 12:18 am
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17623 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 12:38 am to
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He’s washed up and has no longer has any interest in recruiting on a top P5 level.

He's reportedly never had much interest in recruiting to begin with. It's one of the reasons he jumped at his NFL opportunities.

He's mostly interested in guys who will run his system the way he wants. He was stuck in New Hampshire for a decade until Belotti learned of him, and gave him a shot. And like I posted earlier, Athlon ranked UCLA's recruiting 4th in the conference, so he's apparently capable of attracting some talent.
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I’m not saying he’s a bad coach, but he’s not good enough to offset the talent disadvantages he has at UCLA.

I'll agree with this. Ultimately, I don't think he has the overall talent to match up with us for 4 quarters. But I think he's a good enough coach to give us trouble.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54935 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:12 am to
Experienced football team ready for a breakout
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 8/8/21 at 8:58 am to
We are always sloppy on the first game of the season, but we will beat UCLA by at least 2 touchdowns!
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