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re: LSU Men's hoops
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:09 pm to Madking
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:09 pm to Madking
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Again out of all the different programs who had top 20 classes in those two seasons McMahon’s records are 49th and 50th out of 52 teams.
In 2022 our transfer class had 1 4 star (KJ) and 5 3 stars. While decently ranked as transfers (KJ would have been a good addition to another team) but they weren't helped by anyone on the roster to start with.
In 2023 we had a solid class of transfers and had a solid year despite the highest ranked transfer being ineligible before wigging out. We got that class mostly because of the local connections to Cook and Wright.
Both years relied on personal connections instead of straight cash as it is today. And I am not sure how we got ranked 50/52 in 2023 since we finished 7-9 in the SEC. But our composite ranking was 60th.
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Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:19 pm to moldy_tiger
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It’s the SEC man. You can make a class with top 75-100 guys all you want and it won’t be able to compete with 1 5 star surrounded with ready to go top $$$ transfers. HS class rankings are misleading
Ok if it’s a funding issue, then who is responsible for banging the drum to get more money for his program?
Like you said, it’s the SEC. You need to have a personality to lead a program. You can’t be a minimally vocal wet mop.
McMahon has had MORE THAN enough time at this point. It’s time to start seeing results.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:27 pm to Circle K Beggar
quote:Part of it is the AD. Woodward was supposed to be great at fundraising, yet none of that money made it to football or basketball before last year for some reason.
Ok if it’s a funding issue, then who is responsible for banging the drum to get more money for his program?
Like you said, it’s the SEC. You need to have a personality to lead a program. You can’t be a minimally vocal wet mop.
McMahon has had MORE THAN enough time at this point. It’s time to start seeing results.
Especially when the coach doesn't have local connections, the AD should assist making connections. Now, McMahon faced a few extra obstacles: There was an open ROA, Wade was popular and his leaving irked some boosters, and Woodward was likely content to let basketball wallow for a while.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:34 pm to Circle K Beggar
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alluding to because he has no budget, it’s hard for him to get players.
I didn't say that.
I dunno what his budget is or was. I am saying I was told it was not great and I have seen no evidence to disprove that, and also I am told there was more money this year, and I see quite clearly they bought better players like DJ Thomas.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:39 pm to Circle K Beggar
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Ok if it’s a funding issue, then who is responsible for banging the drum to get more money for his program?
I don't know. the coach, the GM, the AD? I don't know. i like sports not spreadsheets.
if the funding isnt there, it isn't there. southeastern will never beat Kentucky even if southeastern is coached by will wade and KY is coached by frank gore.
its not just coaching anymore. its like MLB. the dodgers are not the best coached team. they are the best paid team.
used to be you could argue the coach assembled the team, he did the recruiting and all that. but these days it's about salary, we have universal free agency every year. will wade broke the system by paying out of his own pocket. he was a genius. 300k for naz Reid was aw good value.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:41 pm to Lester Earl
Your New Year’s resolution should be to stop stalking me and obsessing over me
Posted on 12/31/25 at 10:48 pm to mmcgrath
Well that’s what I was saying earlier, he does much better with veteran portal guys who are already developed and have a mature offensive game. Look his style is half court possession/execution basketball. We don’t pressure, we don’t run, we don’t use the heavy volume 3s. We’re a half court, offensive style team. His higher rated classes are more athletic and potential type and he had no success at all with em so the idea that highly rated classes aren’t going to equal more success for him is correct but that can’t be an excuse. A. because he should know what works for him and B. he should be competent enough to adjust. If you guys, and compliments to you for doing it, would stop taking every comment that doesn’t suck him off as a personal insult we’d be having these type discussions instead of the crap some other posters turn everything into.
This post was edited on 12/31/25 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:12 pm to Madking
Happy New Year everyone!
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:13 pm to mmcgrath
shite man, you’re an hour ahead of me. Happy new year, let coach Mac find his niche this season and get to the dance.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:14 pm to jamarr
I see the “ mentally ill” still at it. I just love the whole everyone saw what I posted but I’m but I’m not reposting it for you thingy. LOL. These are mental midgets with no life. Pretty sad.
Posted on 12/31/25 at 11:18 pm to mcspufftiger7
Serious question, are you ever honest about anything?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:12 am to mcspufftiger7
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I see the “ mentally ill” still at it. I just love the whole everyone saw what I posted but I’m but I’m not reposting it for you thingy. LOL. These are mental midgets with no life. Pretty sad.
Congrats. This post makes no sense.
Does the home know you’re using the computer after hours, Gramps?
Posted on 1/1/26 at 1:46 am to Circle K Beggar
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Like you said, it’s the SEC. You need to have a personality to lead a program. You can’t be a minimally vocal wet mop.
McMahon is vocal enough. This is just a rant fallacy. Just because he isn’t screaming at the refs and making theatrics doesn’t mean he isn’t communicating. He vents most of his frustration to the coaches on the bench. And has a tendency not to yell at the players, though he does from time to time. I dont find him to be much different from most coaches except that he isn’t demonstrative in his confrontations.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 9:24 am
Posted on 1/1/26 at 4:18 am to northernvatiger
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Admittedly, I have not watched them consistently thus far.
Then keep asking questions.
Then represent 90% of the lsu fan base and shut the frick up.
The starting 5 is brutal. Nwoko and Thomas look like they’ve played together since middle school. Sutton somehow fell under the radar, can block shots or shoot 3’s. Tamba can defend any big man in the nation, or score if needed. Tigers have a solid 8 but Reece, miller, and king have the most to prove and will prove it.
Sonic on college? You football fans kill the entire fan base. Stfu!!!
It’s embarrassing.
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 4:27 am
Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:25 am to northernvatiger
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 8:36 am to Circle K Beggar
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Ok if it’s a funding issue, then who is responsible for banging the drum to get more money for his program?
I think a legit question. I see a lot of talk about funding in this thread, and after sifting through it all - I'm honestly not sure where we were ranked in the SEC that regard, but let's say the PR blitz at the end of last year was correct and we were funded at second to last.
CMM is at the very least complicit in that if it's true. He has to be the top fund raiser at a school like LSU that does not value men's hoops relative to other sports and other schools. He has to lobby fans, admins, boosters.
If the funding was found under the sofa cushions this year it could have been found previously it seems to me and if that was what was keeping his program back he should have been doing whatever he could to fix that IMHO.
But that's all water under the bridge. I think this team in a weaker SEC has a legit shot to make the tournament. I really hope they do. I like CMM and I love LSU basketball and I want them both to succeed.
Happy New Year to our very small but passionate band of LSU men's basketball fans here on TD. Nobody is really reading it besides us 15-20 desperate die hards - but it's never boring!!
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:06 am to Tiger Ugly
Passionate is one thing. Unhinged is another. As far as funding in todays world it is the AD's that are putting together the funding apparatus. Will Wade went to NC ST and they handed him $10 mil. He didn't have to raise squat. But they are a basketball school that already had a funding apparatus in place. That is what the successful programs are doing.The fact that LSU finally got it's act together after being behind on this is the reason they finally upped the basketball funding . Hell even Ole Miss was ahead of us in football portal funding to begin with. Hopefully the added funding will pay off this year by helping to have gotten better players. If not then we will probably be looking for a new bball coach but I would have preferred to judge him based on comparable funding of other top schools in the SEC over the last 3 years. Then it's apples to apples. You don't win without good players I don't care who the coach is. This team still has some flaws and mcmahon will have to coach to overcome some of those. We will see if he can do that. If not we will be looking for another coach.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:13 am to mcspufftiger7
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Passionate is one thing. Unhinged is another. As far as funding in todays world it is the AD's that are putting together the funding apparatus. Will Wade went to NC ST and they handed him $10 mil. He didn't have to raise squat. But they are a basketball school that already had a funding apparatus in place. That is what the successful programs are doing.The fact that LSU finally got it's act together after being behind on this is the reason they finally upped the basketball funding . Hell even Ole Miss was ahead of us in football portal funding to begin with. Hopefully the added funding will pay off this year by helping to have gotten better players. If not then we will probably be looking for a new bball coach but I would have preferred to judge him based on comparable funding of other top schools in the SEC over the last 3 years. Then it's apples to apples. You don't win without good players I don't care who the coach is. This team still has some flaws and mcmahon will have to coach to overcome some of those. We will see if he can do that. If not we will be looking for another coach.
Just remember: NCAA Tournament or FIRED
It’s time to start seeing results. Even with the myth that this program has been devoid of talent for the last three years (simply not the case but whatever).
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:57 am to Circle K Beggar
I believe I have said he makes the tournament or he’s fired subject to a major injury to Thomas, Nwoko or Sutton. Then I’d give him another year but if they decided to part ways with him I’d understand and support whoever they bring in.
Posted on 1/1/26 at 10:58 am to Circle K Beggar
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It’s time to start seeing results. Even with the myth that this program has been devoid of talent for the last three years (simply not the case but whatever).
Your opinion means less than nothing to the people who make decisions.
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