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re: LSU needs proven quarterback coach
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:13 pm to greyhound77
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:13 pm to greyhound77
Guess you missed Cam Cameron who is the OC/QB coach and has coached in the NFL.
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Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:14 pm to bosoxjo13
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So what does it say that LSU has had 5 of its 7 best passing years in its history under Miles? Is it just the times
yes
and i do not mean that negatively toward miles in any way.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:26 pm to ipodking
let's not go crazy. Les can be the tightend coach.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:30 pm to Rex
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It says you don't know how to critically apply statistics.
Show us then big guy.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 7:42 pm to greyhound77
If you really think that Matt Flynn is the best quarterback Les has had you need to reevaluate your life.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:25 pm to Malaysian Tiger
just as some coaches can't transition to NFL, some NFL coaches can't transition to college. meaning it's a little different to take a quarterback out of high school and develop him for the position. In the NFLl they're basically teaching them an offensive philosophy and reading defenses, and honing their skills, all the basics are there. breeze and rivers are freaks. I don't want to say he didn't contribute anything to them, but he had a lot to work with. They're basically OC 's on the field.
This post was edited on 1/16/15 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:31 pm to greyhound77
quote:
LSU needs proven quarterback coach
I thought that was Coach K and then Cam?
Posted on 1/16/15 at 8:41 pm to ipodking
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Les needs to start calling plays
Les has been calling most the plays his whole tenure.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:02 pm to greyhound77
Jesus
Are you fricking serious
Damn that's an original thought sweet mother I never thought of that your a fricking genius! Somebody put a helmet on this sob send him in the fricking game!!!!
Are you fricking serious
Damn that's an original thought sweet mother I never thought of that your a fricking genius! Somebody put a helmet on this sob send him in the fricking game!!!!
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:48 pm to dreaux
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New OC and demote Cameron to QB coach...!!!!!!!!
I like that idea. He has proven in the past to be a good developer of QB's but not much of an OC. Jury is still out on him but I would be all in on a young open minded OC.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:50 pm to bosoxjo13
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So what does it say that LSU has had 5 of its 7 best passing years in its history under Miles? Is it just the times or has LSU just never passed the ball? Ever
Yes, pretty much the same with every school these days. Just a different game these days and our offense staff needs to become aware of that
Posted on 1/16/15 at 10:54 pm to ipodking
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Les needs to start calling plays and let Cam be QB coach
I'm not don't trust that Miles would call it much different than Cam. Need a whole new change of direction or at least open up to the way the game is played these days.
Posted on 1/16/15 at 11:02 pm to greyhound77
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Let's look at his two seasons at LSU's offensive coordinator. First season ok, second season,terrible. look at Jennings stats from Outback Bowl and Music City Bowl. where's the quarterback development I don't see it.
First season was much better than OK. Under Cameron, Metts completion % went from a 58.8% to a 64.9%. His passing yards went from 2,604yards to 3,082yards. His TDs went from 12 TDs to 22TDs. And his passer rating went from a 128.3 to a 171.4. Pass attempts: 352attempts in 2012 to 296 in 2013.
So he improved a good bit in every stat, and we threw the ball less.
And maybe Jennings just isn't that good and Harris just wasn't ready yet? I mean Cams not the 1 actually making the throws out there. We were very restricted by our QB play and our offense showed it.
So Cam had 1 great year and 1 bad year. We will find out what kinda QB coach he is next season. Harris has the tools to be a good QB for us. It's Cams job to develop him. We will see if he can do that next year.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:16 am to boxcar willie
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He has proven in the past to be a go
He continually had top 10-15 offenses in the NFL for 10 years straight.
That's pretty damn good for an OC. 2013 was a great pro style offense. Not a stat monster like oregon or texas a&m.
2014 was restricted because they knew they didn't have a QB.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 12:24 am to SportTiger1
Fournette is going to be the show!!
Posted on 1/17/15 at 1:13 am to bosoxjo13
Given the nature of the question and your implication, I would presume you would consider the QB's who were at the helm during those 5 out of 7 seasons to be better than LSU QB's from the past who didn't throw for record setting season's. Not sure I could agree any one of these QB's to be better passers than Y.A. Tittle, Bert Jones or even Tommy Hodson. Maybe Mett was better in some aspects, but if Tommy had two pro bowl caliber receivers to throw to instead of one, no telling how many yards he could have thrown for. Just saying, your argument has intangibles involved that transcend how well the QB was developed. Honestly, there's no way I would take Russell over any of the three aforementioned LSU QB's. And I doubt I would take Mett over any of them either.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 10:14 am to greyhound77
So by your logic, we should be able to develop any high school quarterback into an SEC caliber starter if we have a "good QB coach". Or maybe, just maybe, the recruit just doesnt live up to his assumed potential and it has nothing to do with the QB coach at all. Cameron has proven himself at developing QBs that have the WANT to be develop.
Posted on 1/17/15 at 11:02 am to greyhound77
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so getting top recruits equals what? Let's look at his two seasons at LSU's offensive coordinator. First season ok, second season,terrible. look at Jennings stats from Outback Bowl and Music City Bowl. where's the quarterback development I don't see it.
And apparently you don't get it either!!! Got to have something to develop to begin with...AJ does not equal QB...never has, never will...
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