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Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:11 pm to
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Blasphemy

Mr. Q4, did you really just post a tweet from December 3 before lsu had played a single team capable of making the ncaa tournament as evidence for your argument?

Have you figured out who Chris beard is yet?
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
592 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:12 pm to
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I want McMahon to win because I honestly don’t believe there is anyway he is gone regardless
- Adam Banks
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Expound on this please if you can.

If he misses the tournament but is given Year 5, that would be the ultimate insult to the fans.

I have to think Verge & the new leadership won’t stand for that. - Circle K Beggar
CKB, you know I agree with you about McMahon, but personal feelings aside, I agree with Adam Banks that McMahon most likely isn't going to be fired this season no matter what his the final SEC record. All of the largest donors I know have zero appetite for another buyout and the NIL commitment it would take to get a top tier coach to come to LSU. There is only so much money to go around and our limited donors are tapped. It would probably take one mega donor to foot the bill and LSU doesn't have one that cares enough about basketball. McMahon is personally well liked among the administration (the new as well the old) and I think rightfully or not, he gets a lot of passes for untimely injuries, etc.

As someone who travels from out of town for almost every home game (there can't be many of us), I want LSU basketball to get out of the conference gutter and be relevant again, but I would understand if it doesn't happen this year.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:13 pm
Posted by jamarr
Member since Jul 2019
1520 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:14 pm to
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Why should we win our next 2 games? What makes you think that in all honesty


those teams are worse teams in the NET and DJ Thomas is healthy
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34803 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:02 am to
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I agree with Adam Banks that McMahon most likely isn't going to be fired this season no matter what his the final SEC record. All of the largest donors I know have zero appetite for another buyout and the NIL commitment it would take to get a top tier coach to come to LSU. There is only so much money to go around and our limited donors are tapped. It would probably take one mega donor to foot the bill and LSU doesn't have one that cares enough about basketball. McMahon is personally well liked among the administration (the new as well the old) and I think rightfully or not, he gets a lot of passes for untimely injuries, etc.


No one loves giving a lot of money to a failed coach. But at this point LSU failing to do so would essentially be negligence. The program is dead. The customers (i.e. fans) have lost interest. And the donors who purportedly don't want to pay a buyout would somehow want to give NIL funds to a failed coach? I'm not mega rich, but I suspect the donors would hope to see some ROI. At this point giving McMahon more money would be throwing good money after bad. But if they aren't going to give any money because they don't believe in the HC then what are we doing here? Plus, as will Kelly, the buyout wouldn't be due all at once. It would be installment payments for the remainder of the contract term.

Within your statement is where you see the misapplication of the football mindset to basketball. Namely, that LSU won't have enough of a commitment to get a "top tier" coach. "Top tier" is relative. Other than perhaps Wade, LSU's likely not going to be in the mix to poach a top power conf. HC from another power conf. school. That's not really how basketball hires happen. MOST of the coaches hired come from the mid major ranks, power conf. assistant coaches, or power conf. HC who previously had great success but have, for one reason or another, found themselves in the market for a new job. Just look at the SEC. Oats came from Buffalo. Golden from San Francisco. Byington from JMU. McMillian (who has A&M in 1st place...though that will change with tougher games coming up) came from Samford. On that note, McMillian absolutely would have come to LSU if LSU made a change last season. The thought that LSU needs to make a Kiffin type hire to be good, even great, in basketball is foolish. They just have to make the right hire.

On the NIL side, basketball is going to get nearly $4M in revenue sharing alone. Kick in another $5M-6M (which proportional to football is a about on track) and the right coach could put together a REALLY good roster. Todd Golden won a national championship with Florida spending less than $10M. But he was strategic and analytic about the guys he wanted and why (most of which were mid-major players)

MM may be "well liked", but the job is the job and his production over a 4 year stretch is the worst in the league. What successful business is going to say "well, he's really awful at his job....but he's a nice guy...so lets just keep going along"? LSU already did that...last year. No other coach then century and for the better part of the last got so much leeway despite such a poor performance. This was always a "kick the can down the road" year for the past administration. That can has been kicked. MOVE ON!
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4650 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:17 am to
More like Mc64 with both hands fingers crossed or a play in game or the NIT or not making it to anything. The way they give away late leads, you never can count on them to win the winnable games. Frustrating.
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
11972 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:22 am to
MM has lost to Chris Jans coached State teams by an average of around 20 points each time. It is not a foregone conclusion that we will beat them. The best week of McMahon's career here (the back to back wins against UK and a ranked SC on the road two years ago) concluded with a 20+ home loss to Mississippi State, essentially ending our season.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 8:23 am
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3691 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:27 am to
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LSU has never won three SEC games in a row under Matt McMahon


They have enough trouble with one in a row
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71827 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 8:41 am to
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LSU has never won three SEC games in a row under Matt McMahon


This is a pretty crazy stat when you think the dude has coached against what, over 60 SEC games at this point and hasnt been able to string together 3 in a row?

He's only won back to back SEC games 4 times as well. Which is just over once a season at this point
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34803 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:09 am to
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The best week of McMahon's career here (the back to back wins against UK and a ranked SC on the road two years ago) concluded with a 20+ home loss to Mississippi State, essentially ending our season.


Yep.

LSU had gotten themselves into the NCAAT discussion with the wins over SC and UK. The latter of which was a buzzer beater at home that got the fans excited and brought attention to LSU. Then they were physically dominated by MSU and allowed a freshman guard (stop me if you've heard this), Hubbard, to go off for 32...a career high at that point. State was big, half-court team that liked to drag opponents into a half-court rock fight. MM never once tried to extend his defense or do anything to speed up State to try to get the pace in LSU's favor. He just sat there with the same initial game plan and watched State methodically choke LSU out in the second half.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
67599 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:33 am to
That was his best team and chance to make it but it took too long for him to figure out his rotations and he didn’t capitalize on positives that emerged during the season. Much like todays team his inflexibility and limited approach to the game cost that team a chance.
Posted by statman34
Member since Feb 2011
3691 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 9:34 am to
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got the fans excited


I don't think that phrase has ever been used to describe Matt McMahon.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
12743 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:13 pm to
Love the positivity.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18213 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:43 pm to
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Winning the next two games won't put LSU in but will keep them alive..


Exactly - State has a 106 Net ranking and it's at home - that win won't help much at all even with a blowout. Cocks are Net 91 - would help minimally because it's a road game.

As you indicated have to make hey against teams that are as good or better.
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
592 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:59 pm to
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Within your statement is where you see the misapplication of the football mindset to basketball. Namely, that LSU won't have enough of a commitment to get a "top tier" coach.
Why does everyone take this so personally? The first part of my post stated that retaining McMahon would not be my choice if I were in charge. I simply laid out a case of why I wouldn't be surprised if a change wasn't made at the end of the season. It seemed to be an opinion shared by many of the big check writers at the Baseball First Pitch Banquet a few weeks ago. I have no inside information what the final decision will be, but again, it wouldn't surprise me if McMahon is given another year.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
10381 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:06 pm to
Yea the season isn't over yet its just on a razor thin margin now. If you don't let SC curbstomp you at home and don't blow the 18 point lead vs UK the Mcmen would be in a pretty good spot to start celebrating but alas.


They are going to need to beat the teams they are better than , simply enough but you never know these days! Then sneak probably 2 wins against teams better than them. And IF we make it that far might as well win the first game of the SEC tournament to lock in the 10 seed.
Posted by EPORE
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2005
1030 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:13 pm to
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LSU should win its next 2 games vs. State and @SC
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Posted by EPORE
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2005
1030 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:16 pm to
MBB will eek out one or two more wins, MAYBE, just sit back and enjoy it for what it is and take comfort that we will soon get rid of our pathetic coach and bring back the General.
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
17849 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:18 pm to
Going to be tough to finish 7-4, but not impossible



5 must wins that include 2 games on the road. Win 1 out of UGA/Arky at home, maybe steal one @ Texas (theyve lost two at home to Miss State & A&M).

There’s a scenario where we are sitting at 7-9 at the end of February.

I say we need more than 3 Q1 wins (Currently 1-6) to make the NCAAT.
Posted by Brettbest308
Central
Member since Dec 2023
223 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:21 pm to
Abolish the perennially suck arse mens basketball program and give the $$ to Jay Johnson.
We are a football / baseball school
Posted by Johnnyshader53
Member since Oct 2025
60 posts
Posted on 1/27/26 at 1:26 pm to
Kim and the girls are Awesome and the whole country knows it ??
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