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Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:04 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
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Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:04 am to
Right, but what is the root issue for the university?

Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22919 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:05 am to
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I would take Urban in a heartbeat but scared he would leave after a couple years.


Don't even care. I'll take 3 years with Urban over a wing and a prayer with someone else.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33832 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:05 am to
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Phil Longo’s


frick that. He didn’t fare all that well against the better teams in the SEC when he was at Ole Miss. He’s pass happy and super up tempo, but his scheme isn’t complex at all and teams with good defenses can stop it. Same used to see with Leach’s offenses every year vs Washington. Complexity and creativity matter. That is what makes guys like Brady, Sark and Mullen hard to stop. We need someone with a complex and creative passing attack.
Posted by RussellSheppardsPie
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2018
2013 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:06 am to
Agreed. Don’t like him much as a human, but would love to have him as LSU’s Head Football Coach...results speak volumes...all I want for Christmas is a clean house, new head man with new head mans people
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61082 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:15 am to
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He hates College and having to kiss the arse of 17-18 year old kids all day for recruiting
This is why I could never be a college coach of a national program. I understand this sentiment completely.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33832 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:16 am to
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I think russ callaway is a decent coach but this idea that he is going to be the next oc is laughable


I know it’s FCS, but the guy has run a successful offense and had a QB drafted. He’s been here and knows the system and the players. I’m sure things would change, but just keeping the terminology and basics the same means we aren’t overhauling the entire offense again in a off-season. IF (big if) the staff believe he’s up to it, then these are all positives in his favor.

Then you have the salary issue. If they are actually looking at replacing 2 coordinators and a few position coaches, this is one way to restrain the cost and focus money on the defense. I don’t think this should be the reason you promote a guy from within the staff, but it would be a real side benefit for the program.

I know many here will dismiss Callaway because he isn’t a name they know very well, but neither was Brady. And how many of you really knew who Munoz was until sometime last season? I had heard the name, but I didn’t know anything about his role until later. Names don’t matter, only talent. If Callaway has the talent, they should hand him the keys and lock him down for a few years.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61082 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:17 am to
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Someone posted on TD this weekend saying that O and Woody are not on speaking terms. Any truth to this? If so, how bad is it?


I would take this with a grain of salt, but that is giving too much weight to the salt.

It may be 100% true, but being posted on TD on a weekend we got waxed is not worth mentioning.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
67048 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:18 am to
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Outside of paying recruits which every single team and sport does in the country there is nothing negative about wade.


Yet almost none of the head coaches are stupid enough to discuss it with a middle man on their own phone. Just an idiotic decision regardless of the outcome.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78756 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:20 am to
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Yet almost none of the head coaches are stupid enough to discuss it with a middle man on their own phone. Just an idiotic decision regardless of the outcome.



They got 2 high profile head coaches talking to one middle man on an FBI investigation.

I mean...that’s not exactly a normal thing to expect.
Posted by grandmasboner
Member since Feb 2020
27 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:21 am to
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I know it’s FCS, but the guy has run a successful offense and had a QB drafted. He’s been here and knows the system and the players. I’m sure things would change, but just keeping the terminology and basics the same means we aren’t overhauling the entire offense again in a off-season. IF (big if) the staff believe he’s up to it, then these are all positives in his favor.

Then you have the salary issue. If they are actually looking at replacing 2 coordinators and a few position coaches, this is one way to restrain the cost and focus money on the defense. I don’t think this should be the reason you promote a guy from within the staff, but it would be a real side benefit for the program.

I know many here will dismiss Callaway because he isn’t a name they know very well, but neither was Brady. And how many of you really knew who Munoz was until sometime last season? I had heard the name, but I didn’t know anything about his role until later. Names don’t matter, only talent. If Callaway has the talent, they should hand him the keys and lock him down for a few years.



You only do this if you're giving O one more year and don't want to take on more buyout money.

I don't think O deserves the chance to hire another high dollar coordinator.

He really should just be fired and start over.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61082 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:22 am to
Jeff Grimes has 522.7 yards of offense. Hell get him and Sitake in a package deal. Sitake is making south of 2 million and I bet he could recruit like hell in the SEC
Posted by NolaTiger52
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
2118 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:23 am to
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I don't think O deserves the chance to hire another high dollar coordinator

Agreed. If he strikes out again, we won’t have the ability to clean house because we’ll be broke.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:24 am to
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Right, but what is the root issue for the university?



You certainly have an argument to be made.

I personally am not invested in the whole potential title ix issues regarding O.

I'm just saying maybe Wade isn't as difficult to manage or be around right now than O.

If I remember correctly a lot of people were saying Woodward had Wades back 100% last year when this came out.

It just feels like Wade hasn't lost support internally and rather O has.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61082 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:33 am to
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It just feels like Wade hasn't lost support internally and rather O has.


If Wade loses to Kentucky by 40 at home, he will have some shite talked about him too. You dont make the millions they are and not get questioned.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5782 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:38 am to
Wade doesn't need help putting a great product on the court (has accomplished this through multiple assistants leaving); O needs complete help with everything except recruiting communications (putting a binder together, game planning, etc.)
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162424 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:43 am to
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I don't think O deserves the chance to hire another high dollar coordinator.



or let him hire whoever the hell he wants but make him financially responsible for the buy out next go around. Obviously that won't happen but it probably should under this model.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61082 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:43 am to
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O needs complete help with everything except recruiting communications (putting a binder together, game planning, etc.)

This is my only big complaint, I just believe 100% a head coach should be able to pull the play sheet from a coordnator and take over if needed. I just think it is the culture you want on your staff.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:43 am to
I agree with this strongly. O has missed on just about all of his hires, but WTF did Woodward sign off on Pelini AND why did he give O the extension he did? Then Covid, O gets divorced and pics of him and some young chick pop up. Is that how a professional organization runs things? Not in my view.

Pelini, E and Linehan ALL have to go or it will be even worse next year.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
5782 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 10:47 am to
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but WTF did Woodward sign off on Pelini AND why did he give O the extension he did?


O had leverage at the time, coming off the best season in history most any AD would have given the coach the keys. Woody and most of us bought the one team heartbeat culture as the reason for 2019. We were wrong.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
33832 posts
Posted on 12/7/20 at 11:01 am to
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I don't know if there's one that would hire him, especially with all the Title IX allegations.


If he’s cleared in the Title IX investigation, he could get a lower P5 job somewhere that wants a recruiting boost. If not, he would definitely get looks from schools in the American, which is the next level down. He’d probably be successful there, too. It’s not as difficult to put together a good staff at that level and he would recruit far better than most of those programs can.
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