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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Never said they are getting paid for their likeness. I said they are getting paid because...they are getting paid.


From the article:

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Student-athletes must be treated similarly to non-athlete students, must not be treated like employees of their respective universities, and there should be a “clear distinction between college and professional opportunities,” the NCAA said.


So you’re excited because boosters are going from handshake deals that were under the table to hiding their payments for play in “advertising opportunities”?

Good for you, I guess.
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:34 pm to
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And what happens when the 5* Freshman who’s getting all the attention gets paid


what happens when the freshman gets $200k from boosters/companies and never actually produces on the football field.

the market should correct itself to some degree
Posted by HappyTigerDay
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2011
883 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:36 pm to
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what happens when the freshman gets $200k from boosters/companies and never actually produces on the football field. the market should correct itself to some degree


This.. people with money are usually smart enough to know that investing in 18 year old kids isn’t the smartest investment.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:37 pm to
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And if the NCAA wants to enforce it, their won't be any schools in the NCAA


so a plethora of schools are just going to drop out of the NCAA?

is that what you're saying?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51831 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:37 pm to
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what happens when the freshman gets $200k from boosters/companies and never actually produces on the football field.


The NCAA has already stated there has to be a clear distinction between college and professional opportunities. This means every dollar earned will have to be attributed to some sort of advertisement or endorsement.

People are happy because boosters are going from hiding all payments to just hiding how they’re actually paying the players.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:43 pm to
oh i get it, i just dont see this as some great recruiting phenomenon, because, as stated earlier, promising money to a guy who hasnt done anything yet is a bad business decision



Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:46 pm to
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oh i get it, i just dont see this as some great recruiting phenomenon, because, as stated earlier, promising money to a guy who hasnt done anything yet is a bad business decision

Clifton Garrett investors would have been mad.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51831 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:47 pm to
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oh i get it, i just dont see this as some great recruiting phenomenon, because, as stated earlier, promising money to a guy who hasnt done anything yet is a bad business decision


I mean, they’re already doing it. The issue here is it would just become a part of a business expense rather than a wad of cash. In some ways that makes it easier to give larger amounts of money, depending on the business.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:52 pm to
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so a plethora of schools are just going to drop out of the NCAA?

No, why would a school drop out of the NCAA?


I'm saying the NCAA won't risk losing billions of dollars over this, which is what would most likely happen once more states enact similar laws.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:53 pm to
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People are happy because boosters are going from hiding all payments to just hiding how they’re actually paying the players.

Sounds like you're saying nothing is fundamentally changing.
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
8164 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 1:58 pm to
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How?

None of these laws are dictating the NCAA to do anything. Technically, these laws have nothing to do with the NCAA, they're between the athlete and the school. I don't see ho they'd have any case here


Because the NCAA set rules for its member institutions which are the schools. The govt will be forcing the schools to break of the rules it must follow to keep in good standing with their membership to the NCAA.

You cL believe ther will be limits and caps and other stipulations put into this.
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:00 pm to
NCAA FOOTBALL 2020

who's gonna be on the cover? Joe Burrow
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Why do you think that exists now? And why should it exist?

Team chemistry is a real thing.
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Pretty sure schollies are year to year and they can do that now, no?

Yes, but it isn't a thing. You start signing deals to get players and invest in them, you need to recoup that investment.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:07 pm to
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Team chemistry is a real thing.
So you think backup centers think they're equal to Heisman hopefuls right now?
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Yes, but it isn't a thing. You start signing deals to get players and invest in them, you need to recoup that investment.
Schools aren't signing players to anything but a scholarship. How is cutting a guy and taking his schollie going to help a school recoup something more now than it did before?
This post was edited on 10/29/19 at 2:08 pm
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
2324 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:08 pm to
The moment a kid takes money like this, he should also be forced to pay his own tuition, room and board, and all other school expenses.

What a horrible can of worms. This is not a good thing.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110051 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Why will it be outrageous? Because what is already happening will become public?


You cant possibly think a handhskae payment will be in the same stratosphere as a payment for a player actually marketing a business for you
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:11 pm to
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The moment a kid takes money like this, he should also be forced to pay his own tuition, room and board, and all other school expenses.
That won't happen legally, no sense in us wasting our time on that.

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What a horrible can of worms
Any more horrible than athletes getting paid under the table without us knowing about it in hundreds of thousands of dollars that results in a years long FBI scandal with coaches going to jail?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:12 pm to
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You cant possibly think a handhskae payment will be in the same stratosphere as a payment for a player actually marketing a business for you
One, we have no way of regulating and works so poorly, the FBI gets inolved, see above.

Yea, this will be soooooooo much worse.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
110051 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:14 pm to
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Yea, this will be soooooooo much worse
Worse? Where did I say that


I am saying the payment amounts will be much larger. Only a complete ignoramus would argue against that

And with the payments becoming larger, the sphere of influence of said payments becomes larger. Once again, only an ignoramus would argue that


Hence, why shel is here
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112687 posts
Posted on 10/29/19 at 2:16 pm to
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Worse? Where did I say that
That's what the part you quoted was discussing, so...

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Hence, why shel is here

Says the guy quoting stuff when he has no clue what is being discussed.

Do better.
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