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re: Nuss's problem wasn't getting hurt.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 4:56 pm to Sheriff Brackett
Posted on 1/30/26 at 4:56 pm to Sheriff Brackett
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He was abysmal in the big games (at A&M, Bama, at Florida)
Don't forget us winning despite him doing everything he could to lose the south carolina game
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Posted on 1/30/26 at 5:12 pm to Sheriff Brackett
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I get that he had an awful offensive line, no run game and a terrible OC to add to the mix
These are a lot of factors to still segue into a "but".
The guy did panic a lot, due to the above factors. He clearly wasn't receiving adequate coaching.
This post was edited on 1/30/26 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 1/30/26 at 5:16 pm to RBWilliams8
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He clearly wasn't receiving adequate coaching.
he was raised to be a qb and has had nothing but coaching all of his life
Posted on 1/30/26 at 5:23 pm to 777Tiger
You still need to be coached at every level. There's a reason Burrow was still doing heavy film work, and Jayden was Heavy on the VR training as seniors. Tom Brady's kids would still see things that Brady didn't see. If the kid is out there panicking, there still needs to be someone in his corner guiding him.
To continue with the boxing theme, why do the greatest all still have a coach in their corner when they were clearly the best?
To continue with the boxing theme, why do the greatest all still have a coach in their corner when they were clearly the best?
Posted on 1/30/26 at 5:24 pm to RBWilliams8
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There's a reason Burrow was still doing heavy film work,
because he had the fire in his belly, Nuss, not so much
Posted on 1/30/26 at 6:26 pm to Sheriff Brackett
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when he had plenty of room to step up and escape.
This isn't just a Nuss problem.
It's an epidemic at every level of football. Quarterbacks are no longer taught how to work a pocket anymore. And lines aren't trained how to build a pocket anymore.
It's a lost skill because modern OCs design NFL Blitz-style offenses that don't care about being methodical. So the pocket really has no place in today's game.
Posted on 1/30/26 at 8:47 pm to Sheriff Brackett
Being hurt and not being able to throw a deep ball causes defenses to play zone and smother all of your receivers. That forces you to make bad decisions to force passes into coverage.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 4:09 am to Gus007
If you look at the QB rankings heading into the season you can answer that question yourself. The talent scouts were absolutely in error across the board.
For reference
1, 2, 3, & 5: Nuss, Klubnik, Arch, and Sellers
8. Lagway
Nuss was bad in important games even in 2024. The scouts just assumed he could fix that with more experience
For reference
1, 2, 3, & 5: Nuss, Klubnik, Arch, and Sellers
8. Lagway
Nuss was bad in important games even in 2024. The scouts just assumed he could fix that with more experience
Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:01 am to Sheriff Brackett
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Nuss's
OP's problem wasn't failing grammar...
Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:49 am to Sheriff Brackett
At the end of the day Nuss is an athlete with the size and arm strength for the next level. He will get a shot.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:47 am to Sheriff Brackett
quote:I hen you’re nearly 80 you don’t give a frick. You’re thankful to be alive
WOAH!!! EASY HOSS!!!! I can tell you're a big boy with all the swearing you're doing!!!!
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Nuss didn't play well against Ole Miss, Alabama, Florida and A&M in back-to-back years. I don't care what he looked like against Nicholls or a 6-6 Oklahoma team because that's all you idiot Nuss Bus roadies like to argue.
How many starters were out from the Oline versus UF in 2024?
You cont be good when your arse is sacked 7 times from pressure coming from the middle and both ends. He had zero run game and no time to throw as they rushed 3 and dropped the rest. Even with just 3 rushers his average time to throw was about 2 seconds.
LSU was winning the fricking TAMU game until Dellinger got hurt then TAMU was able to rush 3 and drop 8 throwing in blitzes whenever they wanted. Same for Bama. It goes back to 2023. Jayden Daniels WAS the run game. LSU hasn’t had a run game since 2019. Without a run game you’re toast.
Nuss was a first time starter in 2024 and put up 4000+. Yards passing including against a good Vandy defense and a really good OU defense.
The LSU DEFENSE IN 2023 and 2024 were still shite. Less opportunities means less score on offense. It is simple. Yet you’re a fricking idiot and can’t see that 1 player CANNOT win a game. It takes all fricking 22.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 7:33 am to Sheriff Brackett
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Sheriff Brackett
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Nuss's problem wasn't getting hurt.
Injuries and performance are related, and every injury is different and affect every player different and goes back to every good player that has had some type of injury that has changed their career. A great pitcher back years ago
Dizzy Dean’s career was famously altered when a line drive by Earl Averill broke his toe in the 1937 All-Star Game. Rushing back, he altered his pitching motion to protect his foot, resulting in a severe arm/shoulder injury that destroyed his effectiveness. He was just 27 at the time.
Nuss did stay loyal to LSU
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:33 am to Sheriff Brackett
Some of you sorry bastards should be ashamed of yourselves for how you trashed Nussmeier this past season. About 40% of our fan base is both garbage and dumber than a box of rocks.
Any idiot should've known he was dealing with a serious injury. Obtw, OP, way to denigrate what he did in 2024.
Any idiot should've known he was dealing with a serious injury. Obtw, OP, way to denigrate what he did in 2024.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:43 am to Sheriff Brackett
Won’t lie, he kind of sucked and panicked in clutch situations. But hey you never know maybe an nfl team can change that.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:07 am to Tigers222
Nuss will be drafted no later than the 3rd round. He will prove that all you idiot bashers of him don’t know shite.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:13 am to Sheriff Brackett
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Yeah getting hurt forces you to throw into triple coverage with a clean pocket.
How often did either QB have a clean pocket, or a running game.
I remember a time. A Time when fans like you were wishing for a Dual Threat QB.. MVB! Then you got your wish.
How did that work out?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 4:21 pm to Sheriff Brackett
So, just wanted to visit this thread one last time. I don't have an issue with you critiquing Nuss for his decision making at times... that was a legit concern in 2024 and an area he needed to improve. And I'm definitely not knighting for him. Your argument just doesn't work / ignores evidence that refutes your thread title.
1) You are flat out calling Nuss a liar. Quotes from Nuss in the past few days:
The quotes are from the following:
TD
Tiger Rag
yahoo
Is it possible Nuss is lying? Sure. The Tiger Rag article calls him out a little bit for being inconsistent with his language. And he doesn't want to say exactly what it is. But if he is lying, he and his dad (who knows better) are creating a bigger problem for him since any NFL team that wants to invest in him is going to want to review his medical records. Would've been simpler to just say he pulled a muscle and it's better now, instead of saying he was working with LSU's staff, doing rehab, but has a new diagnosis with a new set of doctors and is making progress... he's creating a bigger paper trail that can be verified.
On what basis are you accusing Nuss of being a liar? Simple question. I'm not an apologist for him.
2. You're inconsistent in framing your arguments. For one example, on page 2, I stated it isn't unfair to say his 2nd year leap (progression) didn't materialize due to injury. This was a direct reply to your statement that he didn't make a 2nd year leap the way Burrow & Daniels did, as well as to your thread title that errantly, imho, says the injury isn't why. Go back and look at your reply to me... In the first line, you cite his performance in 4 big games in 2024 as justification why he didn't do better the next year. On the last line of the same reply you accuse me of not looking "at his whole body of work", and you go on in several other replies to say only those 4 games matter to you and the other 7 or 8 games are meaningless. So, who is not looking at his whole body of work? You can criticize his play. You can't, however, have it both ways... either his whole body of work matters or it doesn't. And whether or not you consider some or all of 2024, you have to have a healthy 2nd year to make a fair determination on how much he progressed year to year. We didn't get that healthy 2nd year. So just pointing back at 4 games in the prior year is rather meaningless for what you're trying to prove.
I have not gone out of my way to defend Nuss or gloss over anything he did. Re-read my posts if you don't believe me and point out anything to the contrary where I idolize Nuss in any way. I haven't edited anything. You, however, appear to be calling Nuss dishonest and are being oddly selective in framing ways to diss him. It seems inappropriate.
I don't plan on replying in this thread again as I doubt there's much more to add to this. But I do think your major points deserved to be refuted.
Don't worry, though... this year might've gone sideways, but next year will be different. Leavitt, under Kiffin's tutelage, is a shoe-in for the Heisman! (that's sarcasm if you're not sure)
1) You are flat out calling Nuss a liar. Quotes from Nuss in the past few days:
quote:
"It's been a long process, and I'm starting to get healthy," Nussmeier said.
"I couldn’t use my core," Nussmeier explained. "So I was throwing the ball without my core."
"I'm going back from the ground up and retrain myself. Getting back to finishing throws and rotating through the ball, actually using my core now. It's been nice. The ball is coming out a whole lot differently. It's been good."
“We found out what it actually was a month ago,” Nussmeier told Tiger Rag Thursday night after the American team’s practice at Hancock Whitney. “It wasn’t what we thought it was throughout the entire season. And so, we’re making new progress there, and that’s why.”
Nussmeier said earlier in the week that his new team of doctors did consider surgery.
“Yes, there were a lot of things that went into it,” he said. “Ultimately, right now at this point, we don’t believe I’m going to need surgery. So, we had other plans, and hopefully we knocked it out.”
“I’ve been trying to just re-train from the ground up,” he said earlier this week. “I had built so many bad habits to try and get the ball out my hand because of the injury that it was a struggle at times. Just going back through and being able to actually use my body the right way and being able to finish throws, rotate through the football – that’s something that I’ve been focusing on.”
Nussmeier also made it clear that he did not “opt out” of the final three games of the regular season and the bowl game without an injury consideration. Early this week, he explained his re-injury of Nov. 11.
“I was throwing a front-side shallow,” he said. “That’s an 8-yard throw. Immediately after I threw it, I bent over in pain. At that point, I knew, like, ‘If I can’t throw a front-side shallow, I’m not effective. I can’t help my team win.’ From there, it wasn’t really a decision I was able to make to not play. It was kind of forced upon me. That was in practice. Yes sir. We tried week to week to try and get me to be able to play. It got to a point where I decided, ‘Hey, I can’t do this.’”
The quotes are from the following:
TD
Tiger Rag
yahoo
Is it possible Nuss is lying? Sure. The Tiger Rag article calls him out a little bit for being inconsistent with his language. And he doesn't want to say exactly what it is. But if he is lying, he and his dad (who knows better) are creating a bigger problem for him since any NFL team that wants to invest in him is going to want to review his medical records. Would've been simpler to just say he pulled a muscle and it's better now, instead of saying he was working with LSU's staff, doing rehab, but has a new diagnosis with a new set of doctors and is making progress... he's creating a bigger paper trail that can be verified.
On what basis are you accusing Nuss of being a liar? Simple question. I'm not an apologist for him.
2. You're inconsistent in framing your arguments. For one example, on page 2, I stated it isn't unfair to say his 2nd year leap (progression) didn't materialize due to injury. This was a direct reply to your statement that he didn't make a 2nd year leap the way Burrow & Daniels did, as well as to your thread title that errantly, imho, says the injury isn't why. Go back and look at your reply to me... In the first line, you cite his performance in 4 big games in 2024 as justification why he didn't do better the next year. On the last line of the same reply you accuse me of not looking "at his whole body of work", and you go on in several other replies to say only those 4 games matter to you and the other 7 or 8 games are meaningless. So, who is not looking at his whole body of work? You can criticize his play. You can't, however, have it both ways... either his whole body of work matters or it doesn't. And whether or not you consider some or all of 2024, you have to have a healthy 2nd year to make a fair determination on how much he progressed year to year. We didn't get that healthy 2nd year. So just pointing back at 4 games in the prior year is rather meaningless for what you're trying to prove.
I have not gone out of my way to defend Nuss or gloss over anything he did. Re-read my posts if you don't believe me and point out anything to the contrary where I idolize Nuss in any way. I haven't edited anything. You, however, appear to be calling Nuss dishonest and are being oddly selective in framing ways to diss him. It seems inappropriate.
I don't plan on replying in this thread again as I doubt there's much more to add to this. But I do think your major points deserved to be refuted.
Don't worry, though... this year might've gone sideways, but next year will be different. Leavitt, under Kiffin's tutelage, is a shoe-in for the Heisman!
(that's sarcasm if you're not sure)Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:36 pm to LCTFAN
Dizzy Dean’s career was famously altered when a line drive by Earl Averill broke his toe in the 1937 All-Star Game. Rushing back, he altered his pitching motion to protect his foot, resulting in a severe arm/shoulder injury that destroyed his effectiveness. He was just 27 at the time.
Most readers saying who’s Dizzy Dean ? I can remember like yesterday my Dad telling me that Dizzy Dean story when I was 10 yers old or so in the 1960’s. Thanks for bringing back a really nice memory.
Most readers saying who’s Dizzy Dean ? I can remember like yesterday my Dad telling me that Dizzy Dean story when I was 10 yers old or so in the 1960’s. Thanks for bringing back a really nice memory.
Posted on 1/31/26 at 7:43 pm to Sheriff Brackett
You were saying?
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:15 pm to Sheriff Brackett
Thanks for posting this. I could not agree with you more. You said it very eloquently. I will say it very not eloquently. He is arse and he can’t play.
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