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Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14939 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:17 pm to
You can cheer for Lincoln Riley. He wants soft arse schedules too.
Posted by king47
Member since Aug 2020
1965 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:20 pm to
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If you’re scared, stay home

Schedule them for week 2 like in 2019 not week 1 and I’m fine with it. It’s being smart not scared. You play plenty of tough teams in a sec schedule that you don’t need to prove anything. It’s just dumb to be a hard arse in this scenario.
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
7544 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:26 pm to
If you’re scared say you’re scared.

LSU football players and coaches want to play these games. You can guarantee that
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19027 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:29 pm to
No reason we should not have won both of the past 2 FSU games.
Kelly has got to get these boys more prepared. I think it changes this year with USC.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:32 pm to
I love playing tough as hell schedules. makes the games fun. now if we can start winning a couple of the week one games that would be great lol
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115966 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Schedule them for week 2 like in 2019 not week 1 and I’m fine with it. It’s being smart not scared. You play plenty of tough teams in a sec schedule that you don’t need to prove anything. It’s just dumb to be a hard arse in this scenario.


We’ve lost the openers the last few years because we were the worse team and made crucial turnovers at the worst time. The two with Kelly were against an FSU team who won 10 and 13 games in those years respectively. We lost to a better team on both fronts, not because we didn’t have a warm up game against Alcon state
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Jay Quest
Once removed from Massachusetts
Member since Nov 2009
10698 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:33 pm to
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Why do we continue to do this to ourselves?

Because, as college football fans we WANT to see these matchups.

quote:

I just can’t stomach having two more seasons being one win away from a playoff because we have to play these idiotic openers

Either LSU is good enough to win these games or they are not.

You're not a football fan and you likely never will be.
Posted by MasterJSchroeder
Berwick
Member since Nov 2020
1245 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

king47


will not be carrying the boats or the logs
Posted by ManyTiger
Member since Jun 2020
895 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:38 pm to
Be thankful they are home & home. I hate that we didn’t go to Madison, WI. We did get to play in the freakin Rose Bowl, but not The Coliseum. I really do not like the neutral site games.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59066 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:43 pm to
A home and home vs Clemson is great. Anything is better than yet another neutral site game week 1.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32099 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:49 pm to
You want to be good, play good teams. It’s all about who you play.


Bring it on.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
12144 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:50 pm to
People bitch about games against directional schools, they bitch about neutral site games, now they bitch about incredible home and home matchups. Defies logic.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12719 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:46 pm to
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Everyone does it.

Not really. Very few teams consistently schedule the types of opening games that we have scheduled in recent years. They might do it once in a while, but not every year.
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Texas A&M plays Notre Dame this year. Georgia plays Clemson this year. Bama plays FSU next year. Ohio State plays Texas in 25 and 26. Michigan plays Texas and Oklahoma twice each over the next 4 years.

Case in point, here are those teams’ opening games since 2021:

Texas A&M
2021 - Kent State
2022 - Sam Houston
2023 - New Mexico
2024 - Notre Dame

Georgia
2021 - Clemson
2022 - Oregon

2023 - UT Martin
2024 - Clemson

Alabama
2021 - Miami
2022 - Utah State
2023 - Middle Tennessee
2024 - Western Kentucky

Ohio State
2021 - Minnesota
2022 - Notre Dame
2023 - Indiana

2024 - Akron

Michigan
2021 - Western Michigan
2022 - Colorado State
2023 - East Carolina
2024 - Fresno State

LSU
2021 - UCLA
2022 - Florida State
2023 - Florida State
2024 - USC


Now.. I would agree that pretty much everyone plays somebody OOC with a pulse every year. But not everyone does it opening week. LSU’s slate of season opening games from 2021-2026 is the toughest in the country, and I don’t think it’s particularly close. Doesn’t really help when 2 of our last 4 openers had a week 0 tune-up game, either. Hopefully we’ve made some contractual moves to prevent that moving forward.

Personally I’d rather play good teams than cupcakes. While I think tough OOC scheduling is a net negative toward your chances of making a 12-team playoff, I don’t think it hurts your chances at winning a championship. If you’re good enough to win it all, you’re good enough to make it into the CFP with a tough OOC schedule.

That being said, there is a significant portion of the fan base who view making the 12-team CFP as the bar for success, regardless of schedule. And the reality is that when you’re a major program like LSU, your odds of making it are probably significantly higher if you do the bare minimum in terms of OOC scheduling.
Posted by ulmtiger
Member since Jan 2008
2404 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 6:46 am to
From a pure football perspective and attendance perspective USC and Clemson are going to sell out and ull and Nichols are not. Football enthusiast around the world will tune in for lsu vs usc and lsu vs Clemson. People have weddings and stuff vs Vanderbilt and Nichols. Only great teams do this. We are by the way a 6 point favorite in Vegas. Geaux Tigers
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18205 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 7:00 am to
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You can cheer for Lincoln Riley. He wants soft arse schedules too.
Lane Kiffin says hello as well.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18205 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 7:24 am to
quote:

Doesn’t really help when 2 of our last 4 openers had a week 0 tune-up game, either. Hopefully we’ve made some contractual moves to prevent that moving forward.


Yes, this cannot happen again and there are ways to make sure it does not...these need to be implemented.
Posted by MicahTiger
Member since Dec 2021
672 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 7:34 am to
*small violin*

Excuses. We need to be prepared to play who our opponent is on opening day. The tune ups, the name of the school, etc. does not matter. We looked like dog shite, played like dog shite, and got beat. I love that we are scheduling real games. We play in the SEC, no need to shy away from competition. The players love it. It's why they come here...
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12719 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 7:52 am to
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The tune ups, the name of the school, etc. does not matter.

You can say this all you want but it’s bullshite. Playing a team that had an extra week of fall camp and a game is a legitimate disadvantage. Does it excuse losing to UCLA in 2021? No. We should have been better than them. But as it turned out we were shite and went 6-7.

FSU in 2022 was a good team, and the extra week of practice / game experience (in a year where we had new coordinators on both sides) could have been a huge difference. It doesn’t excuse the special teams disaster but it’s still a factor.

The name of the school doesn’t matter? Seriously? The 2023 FSU game might be the strongest season opener we have ever played. I would argue they were the best team we played all year, and I think they had a legit shot at 15-0 if Travis hadn’t been injured.

As I said, I like playing these games. But I’m also willing to accept that a 9-3 season with a loss to 13-1 FSU in the opener is basically equivalent to a 10-2 season with a .500 ACC team as your best OOC opponent. Many people seem to think they’re drastically different, and long for the years of going 10-2 while beating up on cupcakes out of conference.
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
42141 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:21 am to
One way to the top

Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22126 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 8:30 am to
A game Labor Day weekend didn’t keep LSU out of playoffs
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