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Posted on 5/27/10 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by Jrv2damac
KS (mountain time)
Member since Mar 2004
72675 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 5:48 pm to
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Good for them. He was a miserable FAILURE!!!!


Damn, peej...
Posted by GT
BR
Member since Dec 2003
917 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 5:52 pm to
Can you imagine how many good free agents will be lined up to sign with the Raiders " O "
This post was edited on 5/27/10 at 6:05 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 5:54 pm to
I don't know what is in his contract. They very well may have a case.
Posted by tigerguy121
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2006
10695 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 5:58 pm to
quote:

Can you imagine how many free agents will be lined up to sign with the Raiders " O "


good point, didn't think of this.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
79516 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:04 pm to
quote:

They very well may have a case.


No they don't. If anything this makes JR look better, the Raiders are so incompetent as an organization they don't even know how guaranteed contracts work.
This post was edited on 5/27/10 at 6:06 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23117 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Good for them. He was a miserable FAILURE!!!!


This has nothing to do with whether JR should receive his $$$. This is a ridiculous move that would ONLY have been made by ONE franchise in the NFL!!

JR did NOT void his contract so he should not have to repay anything.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

I hope they win! He is a disgrace!


IMO, any team that drafts a QB as the #1 overall pick is just asking for problems. DE, Oline are the way to go. It usually takes the good rookies several years to even be a top level QB, but you are paying millions to develop them. Oline and DE's have immediate impacts and without a good oline, your QB will suck.

When will teams learn that drafting a QB #1 when you have a shitty Oline is guaranteed failure. Has there ever been a young QB who has succeeded behind a crappy oline?

Back to the original point, this is the reason for JR's holdout in the 1st place. The Raiders wanted to make his contract performance based and take out injury/cut protection that every #1 pick has received for a long, long time. It was smart of JR to hold out even though he was bashed for it.

I doubt he is out of money, and I would imagine that some of those chains and "bling" are gifts from agents or companies. There is not any indication to believe he is even near out of money but I keep seeing that shite posted on here.

He needs to get his head out of his arse and get to work this off-season. He needs to show the work ethic he had at LSU under Jimbo if he wants to have any chance of succeeding or even finding another job
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9658 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:16 pm to
Last I checked, it was the Raiders who cut Russell. Russell didn't walk out on his contract.

Russell doesn't owe a thing to the Raiders.

He was never suspended for drugs, behavioral problems or brought any kind of shame to the Raiders other than not being a good quarterback.

Lots of people fail to be one of only 32 starting NFL QB's on earth. All teams take risks on those who may have the quality to be among the 32.

This is not a Todd Marinovich/Tony Mandarich-style flameout.

Russell should not be penalized beyond losing his job for not being a very good NFL quarterback.
Posted by Tigercat
Tacoma, WA
Member since Feb 2004
4519 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:21 pm to
This is even worse than players who hold out for new contracts, this would be like a player holding out saying "Pay me money right now for the extra work I did last year."

You paid the man a salary/bonus. You fired the man for not performing well. End of story. You can't recoop money for someone you fire who didn't violate their contract.
Posted by diehardfan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2005
5333 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:22 pm to


Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31326 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:23 pm to
I love watching the Raiders unravel year after year. It's pure comedy and a soap opera that never ends.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
39289 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

The Oakland Raiders have filed a grievance

Is "GO frick YOURSELF" too direct a response?



Posted by TigerOnTheProwl
Banned for eating Chicken and Grass
Member since Jan 2005
12325 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:37 pm to
Lack of good coaching aside, JR is a total embarrassment to LSU- so much potential yet he absolutely showed no desire to improve. Instead, he was busy finding ways to create his own turnovers. I would like to give JR the benefit of the doubt, but I would be surprised if any other NFL does not agree with me and decides to give him another shot.
Posted by Majtj236
Member since Dec 2004
1269 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:37 pm to
Exactly.... Raiders benched then cut JR. Sucks to be them but they owe JR every cent of guaranteed money. Live large JR. Live large my friend.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10807 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:38 pm to
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Russell doesn't owe a thing to the Raiders. He was never suspended for drugs, behavioral problems or brought any kind of shame to the Raiders other than not being a good quarterback.


Showing up for camp multiple times 40-50 lbs over his expected playing weight isn't a behavioral issue? Not putting in the time and effort to improve? Poster child of why proven vets should get paid way more than supposed great college players with unlimited "upside" who quickly turn into expensive busts. Dude will be dead broke by 30 if not sooner.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:38 pm to
So, basically Ocean's 2 needs to be created about JR and hsi agent and the Raiders?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:40 pm to
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No they don't. If anything this makes JR look better, the Raiders are so incompetent as an organization they don't even know how guaranteed contracts work.



You have the contract??
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
18309 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:46 pm to
he probably couldn't repay it if he had to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216343 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

You only have 6 posts. GTFO



POST OF THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by gatorubet
Chocolate City
Member since May 2010
401 posts
Posted on 5/27/10 at 6:51 pm to
The "crossed my fingers" contract defense, while novel, may get traction in the Ninth Circuit.
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