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Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:01 pm to Solo Cam
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2. Lack of response in the wake of George Floyd death
Whether you or he agrees with the issue or not, the lack of addressing the issue with the players is the root of the problem. If your whole pitch is that your are a great recruiter because you develop better relationships with players and then you ignore something that, right, wrong or indifferent, they are involved in/upset about, you are not doing your job and that is a red flag. This is one of the more glaring examples of his ego ballooning after the NC.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:19 pm to jbraua
Quit shitting on the coach. After all, Miles was just as bad and yet people still defend him. It only seems to matter to yall if things go bad and I will be the first to admit they are. Would any of this matter if we were undefeated and blowing teams out? Hell no it wouldnt. What coach has done isnt right but some of you need to get some morals.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:23 pm to jbraua
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When managing a team compromised of many black athletes (who come from different backgrounds and world view), he should have displayed more empathy initially.
1 - black people aren't some group that needs to be treated homogenously or like they're in special ed. which black athlete? they aren't all the same.
2 - empathy can be a benefit, however, those that go around trying to empathize with others for empathy's sake think the same way criminals do. it's often used for disingenuous and advantageous means.
should just respect people, not go around trying to pretend you know how they feel.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:28 pm to RightHook
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1 - black people aren't some group that needs to be treated homogenously or like they're in special ed. which black athlete? they aren't all the same.
Well, they certainly vote homogeneously which leads to homogeneous treatment from their current plantation master….the Democratic Party.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:31 pm to Geauxldilocks
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Well, they certainly vote homogeneously which leads to homogeneous treatment from their current plantation master….the Democratic Party.
i agree, but not all of them. some see that being pandered to isn't what it's all cracked up to be.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:33 pm to jbraua
So coach O should’ve given MORE ATTENTION to a career criminal junkie who robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint and used counterfeit bills and was on a lethal amount of narcotics when he RESISTED ARREST? Nahhhh
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:35 pm to jbraua
Only 7-9 have any real bearing on why this team is struggling. The offensive line isn't inept because Orgeron got a divorce. If Orgeron had hired elite assistants, or was himself an elite tactical coach, none of the other nonsense would matter.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:37 pm to Solo Cam
Great comment. I agree with everything you said. The number of people downvoting this tells you everything that’s wrong with this country now. Thugs should NEVER be idolized
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:37 pm to Solo Cam
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HES A FOOTBALL COACH. If you need him to make statements about George FLoyd then you're a moron.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:43 pm to jbraua
Ed is the SAME coach today as he was in 2019....as he was in 2017. The significance of his role in the operation was GROSSLY exaggerated following 2019. He's a good recruiter and a solid DL coach. That's it. He didn't all of a sudden gain some clairvoyance of football knowledge in 2019. He had the right QB in place, at the right time, and went along with his OC's request/suggestion that they bring on a young analyst from the Saints to help implement some new offensive concepts.
In 2020 LSU lost several significant players, not the least of which was their 5th year starting QB who had maybe the greatest single season in the history of CFB. There was also going to be a natural apathy following that season. No matter what the 2020 team did, they weren't going to be able to exceed what they did in 2019. Once you reach the top it can be hard to motivate yourself to stay there....particularly for 18, 19, 20 year old's. Then the world changed in the spring and the players were left to their own devices which only exacerbated the apathy.
But more than that, for the first time in his LSU career, Ed got significantly involved in the actual gameplay/approach. Until 2020 Aranda was essentially the HC of the defense. Ed had little to no input...even though it was clear Aranda's style didn't match his. On offense, LSU lost the "architect" of the 2019 offense (unless you think Ensminger was just sitting on one of the greatest offenses in CFB history for several years, waiting for just the right time to deploy it on the world).
Ed didn't like having to replace, in essence, the HC of the defense and HC of the offense one year after winning the NC. So he hired older guys who may not be as eager to move up the coaching ladder as younger coaches. Linehan was going to come in and help with "Joe Brady's offense"...even though its namesake was no longer on staff. Pelini was going to run ORGERON'S dream defense...not the best defensive approach that LSU could put on the field. The defense failed miserably because for the first time in his LSU career O was dictating the approach.
2020 was a disaster. So he returned to the "Joe Brady" approach. Hire (relatively) young guys with zero demand to come in and replicate 2019 (only with O's defense). Unfortunately, he doesn't really know at a detailed level why 2019 was successful other than the team had some really good players. He's finding out that the "Joe Brady offense" probably requires Joe Brady to be a part of it and you can't just hire someone else to make it "look like THAT".
LSU under Ed is at their best the LESS Ed is involved in important decisions that affect the approach/gameplay. That is, when he essentially has two competent HC's running each side of the ball. And the way you get two competent coordinators is to find the guys who are best at what THEY do and allow them to run THEIR offense/defense....not the offense/defense you want it to "look like."
In 2020 LSU lost several significant players, not the least of which was their 5th year starting QB who had maybe the greatest single season in the history of CFB. There was also going to be a natural apathy following that season. No matter what the 2020 team did, they weren't going to be able to exceed what they did in 2019. Once you reach the top it can be hard to motivate yourself to stay there....particularly for 18, 19, 20 year old's. Then the world changed in the spring and the players were left to their own devices which only exacerbated the apathy.
But more than that, for the first time in his LSU career, Ed got significantly involved in the actual gameplay/approach. Until 2020 Aranda was essentially the HC of the defense. Ed had little to no input...even though it was clear Aranda's style didn't match his. On offense, LSU lost the "architect" of the 2019 offense (unless you think Ensminger was just sitting on one of the greatest offenses in CFB history for several years, waiting for just the right time to deploy it on the world).
Ed didn't like having to replace, in essence, the HC of the defense and HC of the offense one year after winning the NC. So he hired older guys who may not be as eager to move up the coaching ladder as younger coaches. Linehan was going to come in and help with "Joe Brady's offense"...even though its namesake was no longer on staff. Pelini was going to run ORGERON'S dream defense...not the best defensive approach that LSU could put on the field. The defense failed miserably because for the first time in his LSU career O was dictating the approach.
2020 was a disaster. So he returned to the "Joe Brady" approach. Hire (relatively) young guys with zero demand to come in and replicate 2019 (only with O's defense). Unfortunately, he doesn't really know at a detailed level why 2019 was successful other than the team had some really good players. He's finding out that the "Joe Brady offense" probably requires Joe Brady to be a part of it and you can't just hire someone else to make it "look like THAT".
LSU under Ed is at their best the LESS Ed is involved in important decisions that affect the approach/gameplay. That is, when he essentially has two competent HC's running each side of the ball. And the way you get two competent coordinators is to find the guys who are best at what THEY do and allow them to run THEIR offense/defense....not the offense/defense you want it to "look like."
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:53 pm to Cshaw91
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So coach O should’ve given MORE ATTENTION to a career criminal junkie who robbed a pregnant woman at gunpoint and used counterfeit bills and was on a lethal amount of narcotics when he RESISTED ARREST? Nahhhh
That is besides the frickingggggg point guy. I'm as big of a conservative as anyone. That doesn't mean I'm not gonna read the fricking room of people I work with and have to rely on.
As dumb as it seems, alot of black people were impacted by Floyd (whether from media lies or whatever it does not matter). It was a situation that was poorly addressed. O didn't have to give a shite about Floyd but his players do. Having a white ally like O and a leader who would stand beside them would have given him even more respect in the locker room than he got in 2019.
He needed to address the situation considering 95% of our players are black kids with inner city ties. He was too retarded to know his audience. Ponamsky was too busy trying to get national news media to love O and pat him and O's arrogant asses on the back that he helped allow the Floyd shite to spiral
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:56 pm to jbraua
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2. Lack of response in the wake of George Floyd death Admittedly, I didn't think much of this at first. I saw it as political, sensitive--maybe best to let it bet. I am a white guy, he is a white guy; however, we should have noted what Saban and other coaches did. When managing a team compromised of many black athletes (who come from different backgrounds and world view), he should have displayed more empathy initially.
Such bullshite.
LSU went full woke for the OD'ing criminal.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:56 pm to Solo Cam
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Shut the frick up with this virtue signaling stupid bullshite. You and Ryan Clark can eat a dick. What was Ed suppose to do? Start sucking off some lifelong career criminal that refused to comply? Maybe he should have continued this bullshite politically driven racial divide that CNN and other pussys like you won't stop pushing.
Football coaches need to virtue signal.
There was a story of a 5 star recruit walking in on Dabo reading the fricking Bible in his office
In the middle of the day.
Like he wouldn’t fricking know he was in the building.
Virtue signaling to your players is important.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:57 pm to pevetohead
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Was living the coon arse dream worth it Ed?
Probably, he's tied to LSU forever and is a millionaire. I'd take it.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:58 pm to Dissident Aggressor
quote:Facts:
he should have explained that george floyd was a dopehead and a thug who caused his own death...
Coroner's report said:
- cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." That means, death due to heart failure, not asphyxiation.
- "In addition to fentanyl and methamphetamine, the toxicology report from the autopsy showed that Floyd also had cannabinoids in his system when he died"
The long video clearly show George Floyd said "I can't breathe" long BEFORE the officer's knee was on his neck.
These are simply facts, no opinion given on my part.
Downvote away, if you dislike facts.
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/6/21 at 1:58 pm to jbraua
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Verbally assaulting a UCLA fan in front of his children when walking into the stadium.
Jesus, your whole post was drama and this was the tipping point This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 10/6/21 at 2:01 pm to Bottom9
quote:yeah a few of them were killed in the riots after Floyd’s death. And some had their business burned down and destroyed. “Read the room” get the hell out of here. People need to quit bending the knee to bs.
As dumb as it seems, alot of black people were impacted by Floyd
This post was edited on 10/6/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 10/6/21 at 2:03 pm to atltiger6487
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Facts:
Coroner's report said:
- cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression." That means, death due to heart failure, not asphyxiation.
- "In addition to fentanyl and methamphetamine, the toxicology report from the autopsy showed that Floyd also had cannabinoids in his system when he died"
The long video clearly show George Floyd said "I can't breathe" long BEFORE the officer's knee was on his neck.
These are simply facts, no opinion given on my part.
Downvote away, if you dislike facts.
Posted on 10/6/21 at 2:03 pm to Cshaw91
yup. virtue signaling creates weak-minded people.
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