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re: RPO with Nuss
Posted on 10/22/24 at 11:42 am to mon_trell79
Posted on 10/22/24 at 11:42 am to mon_trell79
I agree, but just show it a couple times and slide down. We do not need to get Nuss hurt. It would give the defenses something to think about tho.
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 11:43 am to BadatBourre
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You CAN NOT have Cover 4 on half the field and Cover 2 on the other side. Yes, there are ZONES inside of these coverages that do change.
It’s literally a very popular coverage called quarter quarter half.
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Cover 4 is 4 high safeties.
It can mean 4 deep players. Not safeties. Usually in straight cover 4 you have 2 safeties deep and 2 corners deep. But cover 4 has a bunch if different options. It’s sometimes referred to as cover 7 but usually called Quarters. Is it quarters Meg, Mod, or Mesh? Are they playing stubbie or stump? This is exactly what I was talking about. You think you understand the coverages but you don’t have a clue.
Alabama quarters match.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 11:46 am
Posted on 10/22/24 at 11:53 am to Tiger on the Rag
most people on this board are frickign clueless when it comes to concepts especially blocking concepts
this thread is proof 99% of this board is dumb AF and has no business posting and criticizing every little thing on the score board
this thread is proof 99% of this board is dumb AF and has no business posting and criticizing every little thing on the score board
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:03 pm to BadatBourre
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Oh man......You would be the first person without posting privileges.
All Cover 1, 2, 3, 4, and 0 are how many safeties fall back into zone coverage generally playing deep. Cover 0 is USUALLY a straight up man, with a heavy blitz. Some teams have aligned as Cover 0, and then fallen back into coverage. Cover 1 is one high safety and can be man or zone. Cover 2 is 2 high safeties. Once again, man or zone. Cover 3 is 3 High safeties. 95% of the time zone. Cover 4 is 4 high safeties. 100% zone unless you do some exotic blitz leaving someone uncovered.
You CAN NOT have Cover 4 on half the field and Cover 2 on the other side. Yes, there are ZONES inside of these coverages that do change.
Teams absolutely can and do run cover 4 (quarters) on one side and cover 2 on the other side. Often referred to as quarter-quarter-half. And no, that’s not the same thing as cover 3.
Also your whole rant about “cover 2” strictly meaning the number of high safeties is ignorant. You think teams put 4 safeties on the field when they run quarters?
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:15 pm to lostinbr
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Also your whole rant about “cover 2” strictly meaning the number of high safeties is ignorant.
The irony of him calling others out and spouting that nonsense. Hilarious.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:18 pm to redfishfan
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It’s literally a very popular coverage called quarter quarter half.
Which is Cover 3 modified for more zone coverage to one side of the field. It's still cover 3.
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It can mean 4 deep players. Not safeties.
Secondary players. Thats what it means. Generally safeties. Yes, DBs can play. Stop trying to act more intelligent by nitpicking basics.
quote:Nick Saban's "Famous Defense" Its modified quarters. Once again, why church it up?
It’s sometimes referred to as cover 7 but usually called Quarters
quote:Okay Redfish fan. Do I need to bring out Tuff, Cone, Dog too?
You think you understand the coverages but you don’t have a clue.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:19 pm to BadatBourre
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You CAN NOT have Cover 4 on half the field and Cover 2 on the other side. Yes, there are ZONES inside of these coverages that do change.
You absolutely can. its called cover 6:
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:21 pm to BadatBourre
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BadatBourre
You need to quit while you are behind cuz you are only getting further behind with everything you post in this thread. You don't know much about coverages and its showing.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:25 pm to BadatBourre
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Which is Cover 3 modified for more zone coverage to one side of the field. It's still cover 3.
No it's not. Cover 3 is a middle of the field safety coverage. Quarter Quarter Half is a split safety coverage. They are very different and have different applications. It's also different that you are playing a cover 2 corner to one side and in cover 3 you don't have a corner playing flats.
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Secondary players. Thats what it means. Generally safeties. Yes, DBs can play. Stop trying to act more intelligent by nitpicking basics.
Teams don't bring in more safeties to play cover 4. Safeties are almost never the deep outside guys in cover 4. The corners are. Traditional cover 4 has the 2 outside deep zones covered by corners and 2 high safeties playing the middle 2 deep zones.
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Nick Saban's "Famous Defense" Its modified quarters. Once again, why church it up?
That was my entire point. Coverages are so unique now the average fan can't understand them. Case in point yourself.
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Do I need to bring out Tuff, Cone, Dog too?
You can if you want. But based on your previous post I'm pretty sure you can't explain them.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 12:27 pm to redfishfan
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That was my entire point. Coverages are so unique now the average fan can't understand them. Case in point yourself.
Well he doesn't understand basic coverages so...
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:10 pm to redfishfan
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Teams don't bring in more safeties to play cover 4. Safeties are almost never the deep outside guys in cover 4. The corners are.
correct
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:15 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
one thing is for sure. there is tons of stuff for all of us to learn. this stuff is ever changing and evolving.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:16 pm to mon_trell79
they show him no respect now!
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:17 pm to Honkus
quote:did that last week
Fake the hand-off and pull that thing like it's a tug-o-war
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:18 pm to mon_trell79
Did you mean on the RO or the RPO?
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:20 pm to mon_trell79
QB run is not what RPO is. Its handoff or throw. QB can run but no more than on a regular run play.
Read-option is when the QB can pull and run. But stop using RPO as Read Option.
Read-option is when the QB can pull and run. But stop using RPO as Read Option.
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:30 pm to BadatBourre
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Cover 3 is 3 High safeties. 95% of the time zone.
plenty cover 3 is man under with a 3 man rush. that leaves 5 guys to cover all possible receivers underneath in man coverage. of course it can be used in zone also.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:37 pm to mon_trell79
Nuss needs to learn to that it’s ok to run for positive yards when the downfield options are covered. He need to be more Mahomes and less Favre. There is nothing more deflating to a defense on 3rd and 6 than a QB scrambling for 7yds.
McElroy said it best on the OM broadcast. He saw the opening to scramble for big yardage before the ball was snapped on a few occasions.
McElroy said it best on the OM broadcast. He saw the opening to scramble for big yardage before the ball was snapped on a few occasions.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:39 pm to Fat Bastard
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plenty cover 3 is man under with a 3 man rush. that leaves 5 guys to cover all possible receivers underneath in man coverage. of course it can be used in zone also.
Just from a pure coaching aspect. Cover 3 is considered always to be zone. Teams do play 3 high man under coverages but they wont call it cover 3. Cover 2,3,4 when speaking about the base versions are all considered zone. Cover 1 or 0 would be considered man. If you use a 2 high shell and play man teams would consider that 2 man. Like previously stated teams are rarely in these base type coverages these days. They are almost always in one of the quarters match coverages or some type of man.
Edited to add- Palms coverage is also very popular which is a version of man with a bunch of brackets.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 10/22/24 at 1:42 pm to Fat Bastard
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one thing is for sure. there is tons of stuff for all of us to learn. this stuff is ever changing and evolving.
I agree. My issue isn't that he doesn't have a PHD in pass coverage. My issue is that he is acting like he does while simultaneously failing 101.
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