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Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13088 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:01 pm to
Pretty obvious the ranking was done by Negas here on this site.
These people are miserable....
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:14 pm to
yet you can't even post one?


I find it sadly hilarious that even the most staunch O fans cannot bring themselves to put Orgeron above 5.

These same people probably would have put Miles at 14 at the beginning of the 2016 season.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6349 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:15 pm to
Ok, nitwit, where do you rank him?
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17571 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

O would've won that division that muschamp won with last year's lsu.

I mean, Florida's only loss in the regular season was to UGA, who ended up going to Atlanta. Florida, UGA and South Carolina all finished in the top 10 that year.

It's a reach to say Orgeron would've won that division with any certainty. Particularly with our squad last season.
quote:

Regarding the bad losses, you're right that they aren't comparable. Muschamp lost to an fcs school. That didn't complete a forward pass.

Has anyone said it wasn't a bad loss? It's not like Georgia Southern ever cared about throwing the ball anyway.

If you recall, they ran on the 2011 Bama team like "shite through a tin horn", in the words of Saban.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:18 pm to
hey look, common ground

I don't know if you actually attended LSU because you don't strike me as a particularly bright person, but being a student there in 2006, I remember no shortage of fans who were happy to see Jumbo go and that Miles struck gold replacing him with the wizard Gary Crowton.

weird how 10 years later people look at coaches differently...reminds me of another coach whos perception has changed from 10 years ago.
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:18 pm to
LSU has too many unknowns at the moment. Along with the fact that the best win in CEO's HC is against Auburn '17. He really doesn't deserve to be ranked very high tbh.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
23949 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:19 pm to
That list is dogshit not even taking O into account. Derek Mason and Mark Stoops LOL.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13088 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:36 pm to
Thanks for asking, but I don't like these polls b/c they don't usually tell you much about the criteria used.
However, in the interest of not avoiding the question, I would suggest that he belongs somewhere near the bottom of the conference b/c I cannot see another school wanting to hire him.
My criteria would include the following:
1. integrity;
2. Maturity;
3. Judgment;
4. X's and O's acumen;
5. recruiting results and ability;
6. abilities as a spokesman and "face' of the university;
7. motivator;
8. track record in football, including wins and losses as HC.
Da Coach O would not do well by my criteria.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33961 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

My criteria would include the following: 1. integrity; "It's Matt's offense" - Orgeron

2. Maturity - guy rips his shirt off still

3. Judgment "changing someone's offense when he has zero expertise on that side of the ball;

4. X's and O's acumen - next

5. recruiting results and ability - Solid

6. abilities as a spokesman and "face' of the university - we're a punchline because of him

7. motivator; does well when he has to circle the wagons, not as well dealing with expectations

8. track record in football, including wins and losses as HC. Da Coach O would not do well by my criteria. - word
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 2:59 pm
Posted by namvet6566
Member since Oct 2012
7816 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:05 pm to


just wait, i am betting he will be more successful than Jimbo

as long as i am alive..they will not be forgotten
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Pensatrolla


That's the perfect name for Kristy.

quote:

gets finished playing bridge with the girls.


Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:22 pm to
Is Will fricking Muschamp that much better than O? and Mark Stoops?
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5622 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:28 pm to
The lack of acknowledgement of how little respect Orgeron has among coaches and writers is amazing.

It’s not the so-called “haters” it’s anyone with the small exception of O fans, not necessarily LSU m fans who don’t see how Oregron is actually viewed by college football as a HC.

This is just one piece and I would put O ahead of Luke but that’s the respect O earned as HC at OM.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5622 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:28 pm to
Yes
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
13042 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 3:55 pm to
I like how Jimbo (who tanked in the ACC last season, despite playing teams with less talent than his own) and Mullen (whose only coaching accomplishment was getting Moo U to a top 5 ranking before nosediving in the second half of that season) are both ranked ahead of Kirby, who coached his team to the playoffs in only his second year. Solid list.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2154 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

It’s not the so-called “haters” it’s anyone with the small exception of O fans,

You over estimate the numbers. No one ourtside of LSU fans care, one way or the other.

Do you agree with the rankings? Obviously the writer of this article didn't care (exclude O from the list) enough to put serious thought into the rankings. Other posters have made valid critiques of the list. See above.
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10912 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Not good news for Tiger fans.

Why is it bad news? Because some writer for a Tennessee fan site said so?

I’m not even arguing the validity of the ranking. Was he a good coach until this guy said so?
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83398 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:15 pm to
i'm not sure if ed will ever be a good coach
Posted by Tiger_Stripes
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
903 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 4:44 pm to
Cmon. This list is just stupid. Jimbo has proven NOTHING as a HC in the SEC.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13088 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:08 pm to
Yes
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