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re: Step into the cages with Javi
Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:38 am to Broham
Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:38 am to Broham
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We get into favorable hitting counts such as 2-0 or 3-1 only to sit there and fricking take a pitch right down the damn middle
We must be watching different games then. I see a team that works into favorable counts and then tries to drive the ball. Nola is pretty much a textbook example.
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I could sit here and explain you the game of baseball all day long
I highly doubt it, but congrats on using such an original copout line. You are literally the first poster to ever play the "I know so much more than everyone it's a waste of my time to try to explain it" card.
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Posted on 5/17/12 at 9:58 am to MOT
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Nola is pretty much a textbook example.
I can exclude Nola because his at bats have been great lately.
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I know so much more than everyone it's a waste of my time to try to explain it
Don't put words into my mouth. I know I don't know it all. If I did, I would be a coach and not doing what I do for a living.
I just hate how most of you think if you're critical about the team, you're not a fan. I'm a bigger fan than most in here and that's a fact. I'll be cheering my arse off tonight. I'm the type that if we lose a series, I'm upset the whole next week. Same for football but a little worse because there's only a few games. Basketball, not so much.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:36 am to Broham
So in one breath you say...
Then you post this:
That didnt happen much in this thread if at all yet you throw it out there. I think you are crawfishing.
Where is LSU ranked from a runs scored standpoint in the SEC?
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Don't put words into my mouth
Then you post this:
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I just hate how most of you think if you're critical about the team, you're not a fan.
That didnt happen much in this thread if at all yet you throw it out there. I think you are crawfishing.
Where is LSU ranked from a runs scored standpoint in the SEC?
This post was edited on 5/17/12 at 10:43 am
Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:42 am to Broham
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I just hate how most of you think if you're critical about the team, you're not a fan
And don't put words in my mouth, that is simply another copout. I never questioned anyone's fanhood and without reading back through the thread I'm fairly certain no one else did either. This is just a discussion about what I perceive to be a pretty big myth.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:46 am to moneyg
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I think you are crawfishing.
Negative
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Where is LSU ranked from a runs scored standpoint in the SEC?
I think we're second behind Kentucky.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:51 am to MOT
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This is just a discussion about what I perceive to be a pretty big myth.
Ok, I'll go ahead and just say that Javi is an average hitting coach. He's definitely not above average and I think you can agree with that. So with that said, do you think he's an average third base coach? Do you think he's an average recruiter?
Do you think he's doing well enough to be our hitting, 3rd base and recruiting coach or do you think we can do better?
This post was edited on 5/17/12 at 10:51 am
Posted on 5/17/12 at 10:58 am to Broham
I think 3rd base coaches don't make much of a difference one way or the other and the only time they are noticed by casual fans is when someone gets thrown out. We are aggressive on the bases and get thrown out a lot. We also score extra runs because of it. It is Mainieri's philosophy and has been since day 1, so I don't know how much of it can be attributed to Sanchez.
There are times when runners cross the line from being aggressive to reckless, and we should be doing a better job of making sure they know the situation...when its ok to be aggressive, when not to, etc.
Sanchez isn't the recruiting coordinator and never has been so I have nothing to judge his ability on. If you have specific examples please share.
There are times when runners cross the line from being aggressive to reckless, and we should be doing a better job of making sure they know the situation...when its ok to be aggressive, when not to, etc.
Sanchez isn't the recruiting coordinator and never has been so I have nothing to judge his ability on. If you have specific examples please share.
This post was edited on 5/17/12 at 11:25 am
Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:25 am to MOT
So who was the RC last year and who is this year?
Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:36 am to Broham
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I think we're second behind Kentucky.
Where does LSU's offensive talent rank in the SEC in your opinion?
Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:49 am to MOT
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I think 3rd base coaches don't make much of a difference one way or the other and the only time they are noticed by casual fans is when someone gets thrown out. We are aggressive on the bases and get thrown out a lot. We also score extra runs because of it. It is Mainieri's philosophy and has been since day 1, so I don't know how much of it can be attributed to Sanchez.
I agree with this. If PM wanted Javi to be less agressive at the plate he would. It's not that difficult to tell somebody to stop windmilling people around quite as much.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:53 am to moneyg
I see where you going with this but Javi is still not a good hitting coach in my opinion. Rhymes and Katz or the only ones with above average. Nola and Hanover are 4 year starters, their average should be better. Ross has improved a ton, don't really know if that's due to Javi. Jacoby was supposed to be a super star.
Raph Rhymes .476
Mason Katz .332
Austin Nola .311
Ty Ross .305
Tyler Hanover .290
JaCoby Jones .256
Arby Fields .234
Jared Foster .222
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Jordy Snikeris .292
Alex Edward .282
Grant Dozar .274
Tyler Moore .269
Jackson Slaid .267
Chris Sciambra .246
Casey Yocom .204
Beau Didier .167
Evan Powell .143
Raph Rhymes .476
Mason Katz .332
Austin Nola .311
Ty Ross .305
Tyler Hanover .290
JaCoby Jones .256
Arby Fields .234
Jared Foster .222
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Jordy Snikeris .292
Alex Edward .282
Grant Dozar .274
Tyler Moore .269
Jackson Slaid .267
Chris Sciambra .246
Casey Yocom .204
Beau Didier .167
Evan Powell .143
Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:54 am to BeauCephus307
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It's not that difficult to tell somebody to stop windmilling people around quite as much.
It's not that hard to tell if the runner has a legit chance of being safe at the plate either. Javi gets people thrown out by 6 feet.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 11:56 am to Broham
Grewe was the recruiting coordinator last year and we do not have one this year. Mainieri said he wanted to use more of a team approach instead of one guy having that much autonomy while trying to see hundreds of players all over the country. He said they will now use more of a pro approach....scout/croschecker/scouting director....with Mainieri making the final decision on who is offered after he sees them in person.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:06 pm to Broham
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I see where you going with this but Javi is still not a good hitting coach in my opinion. Rhymes and Katz or the only ones with above average. Nola and Hanover are 4 year starters, their average should be better. Ross has improved a ton, don't really know if that's due to Javi. Jacoby was supposed to be a super star.
Raph Rhymes .476
Mason Katz .332
Austin Nola .311
Ty Ross .305
Tyler Hanover .290
JaCoby Jones .256
Arby Fields .234
Jared Foster .222
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Jordy Snikeris .292
Alex Edward .282
Grant Dozar .274
Tyler Moore .269
Jackson Slaid .267
Chris Sciambra .246
Casey Yocom .204
Beau Didier .167
Evan Powell .143
...and that list above places them 4th in the SEC...against the SEC.
You are harkening back to the good old days where if a player wasn't hitting .300 in college, he was subpar. Those days are over, fella.
Any quality analysis should go beyond only looking at LSU and should also compare to the performance of others. This team, while under talented, is outperforming most of the other teams in the best conference in the nation.
Having a subjective opinion about Sanchez is one thing. But, ignoring the success at the plate relative to others in the conference is pathetically narrow minded.
And, the argument that you've put together is extremely weak.
This post was edited on 5/17/12 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:19 pm to moneyg
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This team, while under talented
Ok, you talking about how good we're doing at the plate, what makes you think this team is under talented? Why are they not talented players performing pretty well?
Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:21 pm to moneyg
I agree with Broham. Some of you guys need to take off the P&G shades.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:29 pm to moneyg
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You are harkening back to the good old days where if a player wasn't hitting .300 in college, he was subpar. Those days are over, fella
Can't believe this hasn't been brought up yet, great point. Hitting .280 today is the new .300.
And I don't know how Javi can receive any criicism at all for Nola. Dude's a SS hitting over .300 with a great OBP and has had a great approach at the plate his whole career. I wish we had 8 more just like him.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:33 pm to josh336
I agreed with him about Nola. He has the best approach on the team.
Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:39 pm to Broham
The Javi hate is simply not justified this year. The SEC is the strongest conference by far this year and here are our hitting rankings in the SEC:
LINK
Batting Average: 4th
Slugging %: 5th
On Base %: 3rd
Runs Scored: 2nd
Hits: 4th
RBI: 1st
Doubles: 3rd
Homeruns: 5th
LINK
Batting Average: 4th
Slugging %: 5th
On Base %: 3rd
Runs Scored: 2nd
Hits: 4th
RBI: 1st
Doubles: 3rd
Homeruns: 5th
Posted on 5/17/12 at 12:45 pm to Broham
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Ok, you talking about how good we're doing at the plate, what makes you think this team is under talented? Why are they not talented players performing pretty well?
It is a subjective opinion. Do you disagree? Do you think this team is above average from a talent standpoint at the plate? Be careful, you have commented on the talent level in the past.
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