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re: the onside kick
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:42 pm to whiteyc777
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:42 pm to whiteyc777
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I know, right?
You would think that they would be able to possess some level of reading comprehension.
Unfortunately that comment was directed at you
and holy shite dude, you should bow out of this thread. you've been boomed twice.. just now. BRUTAL
This post was edited on 9/7/10 at 3:44 pm
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Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:44 pm to whiteyc777
quote:
whiteyc777
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:45 pm to whiteyc777
quote:can a kicking team just kick the ball 2 yards then jump on it?
whiteyc777
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:46 pm to whiteyc777
YTC, you are the largest douche I have seen posting recently! Congrats!
And the guy who claims to be a ref; kill yourself.
And the guy who claims to be a ref; kill yourself.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:47 pm to meauxjeaux2
quote:
can a kicking team just kick the ball 2 yards then jump on it?
No, they cannot. The rules clearly state this.
The ball must either:
1. Travel 10 yards
2. Be touched by the receiving team
before it can be recovered.
Had the ball touched a UNC player first, then it absolutely should have been a penalty and the ball awarded to LSU.
-YTC
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:50 pm to whiteyc777
quote:
Had the ball touched a UNC player first, then it absolutely should have been a penalty and the ball awarded to LSU.
So it was ok for unc to tackle the lsu player before he touched the ball?
I've seen that before in games.
It was a penalty.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:50 pm to whiteyc777
quote:ok then,now we are getting somewhere.
No, they cannot.
Now.
Can the player from the receiving team,even though he has moved forward towards the ball into the "neutral zone" be interfered with prior to touching the ball?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:51 pm to ELVIS U
quote:
Nevertheless, Les should have had the hand's team on the field.
True. Shep should have been on the bench. Maybe TBob would have been better.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:54 pm to MastrShake
From Refstripes.com - an officials message board
Not only was UNC not permitted to block until the 10 yards or our touching..but also according to some of the referees on the site it appeared to be an illegal formation as well
LINK Link to their discussion.
Not only was UNC not permitted to block until the 10 yards or our touching..but also according to some of the referees on the site it appeared to be an illegal formation as well
quote:
I was working this game as the scorer, and talked with the replay official. Yes, they missed the illegal block, but that can't be corrected by review. Once the call was made (or not made) on the field, the only things for review were: did LSU touch the ball before it went 10 yards (yes), and who recovered (UNC). But it should have been flagged for the contact by UNC. No one even mentioned the formation, I think that was far too close to call.
LINK Link to their discussion.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:54 pm to meauxjeaux2
quote:
Can the player from the receiving team,even though he has moved forward towards the ball into the "neutral zone" be interfered with prior to touching the ball?
Yes, as the rules clearly state, once the ball touches the ground all protection rules are gone and contact can be made.
-YTC
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:55 pm to NC_Tigah
NC, this thread has turned into the Rant's version of the Poli board.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:56 pm to MastrShake
More views, just for fun:
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:57 pm to yaherrdme
yes,it does seem to be that only 3 players to the left of the kicker at ball contact.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:58 pm to whiteyc777
quote:
Yes, as the rules clearly state, once the ball touches the ground all protection rules are gone and contact can be made.
no it does not.. that is the "exception" for plays outside of the 10yds
Posted on 9/7/10 at 3:59 pm to whiteyc777
quote:I believe the rule states that the ball must go past neutral ground before contact can be made.
Yes, as the rules clearly state, once the ball touches the ground all protection rules are gone and contact can be made.
Do you agree that neutral ground is the 10 yards between the kicking team and the receiving team?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:02 pm to whiteyc777
quote:So it's then OK for the kicking team to TACKLE, HOLD, and THROW DOWN a receiving team player prior to him touching the ball under those circumstances?
Yes, as the rules clearly state, once the ball touches the ground all protection rules are gone and contact can be made.
Really?
How big a nitwit are you planning to make of yourself before you step away from the keyboard?
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:06 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
So it's then OK for the kicking team to TACKLE, HOLD, and THROW DOWN a receiving team player prior to him touching the ball under those circumstances?
Really?
How big a nitwit are you planning to make of yourself before you step away from the keyboard?
I'll probably be leaving the office in about an hour, so I'll step away from the keyboard then.
As for your first question, collisions happen all the time on onside kicks, both before and after the neutral zone has been breached. It is perfectly legal as long as the ball has touched the ground.
-YTC
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:08 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
How big a nitwit are you planning to make of yourself before you step away from the keyboard?
He's been proven wrong 7 ways to Sunday but he'll still keep arguing.
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:09 pm to whiteyc777
quote:
ur, so I'll step away from the keyboard then.
As for your first question, collisions happen all the time on onside kicks, both before and after the neutral zone has been breached. It is perfectly legal as long as the ball has touched the ground.
But not inside the 'neutral zone'
Posted on 9/7/10 at 4:09 pm to MastrShake
quote:
do you mean the same officials on the field who never blew this play dead when Ron Brooks had his entire foot on the line AND the ball broke the plane of the end zone by three yards, and then when they did blow the play dead, signaled that it was LSUs ball?
are those the officials you're siding with?
That's really not the best example, since that play was handled correctly.
The play does not become dead because "Brooks has a foot on the line or because the ball broke the plane of the goal line.
And signalling LSU's ball was correct too - and then once the play is done, then you go back and deal with the illegal touching, which occurred in the end zone and thus gave UNC a touchback.
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