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re: There is a baseball Coaches' Committee meeting Tuesday
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:26 pm to Elleshoe
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:26 pm to Elleshoe
He ain't helping and he is responsible for recruiting too.
Grewe gets the boot but Javi gets a free pass because he can babysit PM's kid?
Grewe gets the boot but Javi gets a free pass because he can babysit PM's kid?
This post was edited on 2/27/12 at 3:27 pm
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Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:28 pm to deuce985
Mainieri shoulders more blame than Sanchez IMO and the players should be held accountable for their lackluster play the last 2 seasons. Sanchez I'm sure hasn't helped matters but you can't turn chicken shite into chicken salad.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:29 pm to Elleshoe
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I love how its all Sanchez' fault
Like Mallveto....That was Les' fault for keeping them and not going out and getting a top notch DC to replace Pelini.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:30 pm to Elleshoe
quote:
you can't turn chicken shite into chicken salad.
you could but it would taste like... well.....shite.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:31 pm to Trent
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Why did we schedule such weak teams.
...and then get smoked by them
good follow up question
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:33 pm to Elleshoe
PM is definitely to blame. But Javi has no place at a major program like LSU.
And you could argue LSU has gotten progressively worse since he came here. LSU can't hit for shite, he is recruiting the guys and coaching the hitting. He is a big part to blame, IMO.
You can't tell me he has little input on talent evaluation while recruiting.
And you could argue LSU has gotten progressively worse since he came here. LSU can't hit for shite, he is recruiting the guys and coaching the hitting. He is a big part to blame, IMO.
You can't tell me he has little input on talent evaluation while recruiting.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:36 pm to LSURussian
Besides Baton Rouge, what city in America would you like to move to and coach college ball? Then we all take up a collection and help him move there!!
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:38 pm to deuce985
Just curious, are there any team comparative stats of LSU's declining hitting under Javi? I'm curious. I know we were in the 38-50 range hitting last year depending on what stats you look at. What about 2010? 2009?
Posted on 2/27/12 at 3:56 pm to josh336
Here is some comparative stats. I think it's more of a lack of hitting talent IMO.
Team BA
2009 .315
2010 .319
2011 .303
Team OBP
2009 .405
2010 .406
2011 .383
Team SLG
2009 .516
2010 .499
2011 .428
Runs
2009 575 (7.9 per game)
2010 497 (7.9 per game)
2011 388 (6.9 per game)
HR
2009 107 (1.5 per game)
2010 78 (1.2 per game)
2011 34 (0.6 per game)
2B
2009 141 (1.9 per game)
2010 124 (2.0 per game)
2011 106 (1.9 per game)
Team BA
2009 .315
2010 .319
2011 .303
Team OBP
2009 .405
2010 .406
2011 .383
Team SLG
2009 .516
2010 .499
2011 .428
Runs
2009 575 (7.9 per game)
2010 497 (7.9 per game)
2011 388 (6.9 per game)
HR
2009 107 (1.5 per game)
2010 78 (1.2 per game)
2011 34 (0.6 per game)
2B
2009 141 (1.9 per game)
2010 124 (2.0 per game)
2011 106 (1.9 per game)
This post was edited on 2/27/12 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 2/27/12 at 4:13 pm to TigerCub
Damn, thanks for the find. Not bad when you factor in the new bats last year.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 4:46 pm to josh336
Is there a statistic regarding batting average with runners in scoring position? Also, is there a stat regarding base runners left on base
Posted on 2/27/12 at 5:09 pm to josh336
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Damn, thanks for the find. Not bad when you factor in the new bats last year.
Depends on how you view Mahtook in relation to the team numbers, he was the only hitter on the team last season with any semblance to past guys that put up good SLG and HR's, new bats or not. Good luck plugging someone in to match his numbers this season. That was most of the issue with the 2011 squad excluding Matook, no one could count on them in the clutch to produce with or without RISP. I haven't looked at the 2011 numbers, but LSU sure seemed to struggle late in games to put up any runs against opponents' bullpens whereas LSU's BP couldn't hold any opponent hitters down. IMO, the hitting has to be much better and consistent throughout the lineup just to match last year's production. Whether the talent exists on this squad and that happens or not I do not know. Heck, I haven't seen a guy even close to replacing Schimpf at the plate, and he certainly wasn't a big player but could rip it.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 5:16 pm to kingbob
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Is there a statistic regarding batting average with runners in scoring position?
Somebody posted it in one of the Javi Sucks threads a couple of weeks ago and, like most of the other offensive stats, it was surprisingly good. I was like most and figured our hitting sucked last year, but this simply was not the case--at least the stats don't support it. We were top 3 or 4 in the SEC in batting avg., runs scored, etc. Yes, the hitting could have been better, but it was not horrible like most seem to think. Now this past weekend is a different story!
Posted on 2/27/12 at 5:24 pm to jobare
quote:The Ivy league does not give any athletic scholarships.
You do realize that Dartmouth doesnt give baseball scholarships..
Posted on 2/27/12 at 5:30 pm to Kim Jong Ir
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like most of the other offensive stats, it was surprisingly good
We were top 3 or 4 in the SEC in batting avg., runs scored, etc.
But that's impossible!! Every ranter knows we have not gotten a single base hit since Javi Sanchez arrived at LSU!!
I still can't understand how LSU won the 2009 National Championship with Sanchez coaching our hitters how to strike out every at bat....
Posted on 2/27/12 at 5:35 pm to deuce985
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And you could argue LSU has gotten progressively worse since he came here.
You could argue that but you'd be wrong.
In fact check out this tidbit from LSUSports.net.
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The 2009 Tigers were No. 1 in the SEC in hits, runs, walks, total bases (1284), RBI (532), doubles (142), triples (19) and stolen bases (114). LSU led the league in hits for the first time since 2004.
Remember, Sanchez became LSU's hitting coach at the end of the 2008 season. So his first year as hitting coach resulted in the above statistics.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 5:44 pm to LSURussian
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But that's impossible!!
I know! The stats must be wrong. I don't remember when the thread was--I think the week before the opening weekend--but the people that posted in that thread finally had to acknowledge that they were wrong--or they just shut up. I am not defending Sanchez, nor did I defend him in that thread, but the hitting was not as bad last year as these guys seem to think. You give them batting average, they say well that was against cupcakes, how did we do in the SEC only? Answer is we were ranked about the same or maybe even the same (third?). Well we didn't hit when it mattered--we werent' clutch--yet our avg. with runners in scoring position was about as good as anybody's in the SEC. Plus we ranked 4th overall in runs scored and 5th in SEC only games. As Lester put it, statistics really ruined a good thread!
In SEC games only, we averaged scoring about a run a game more than USC--problem is, we gave up an average of more than 2 more runs a game.
This post was edited on 2/27/12 at 5:46 pm
Posted on 2/27/12 at 5:57 pm to LSURussian
Do you still let your assistants do all the recruiting while you sit on your arse and do nothing.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 6:15 pm to LSURussian
Yet in 2011, when LSU:
Scoring 0-2 runs 0-8
... 3-5 runs 3-9
... 6-9 runs 20-3
... 10+ runs 13-0
That's a lot of games scoring 2 or less, and until they scored > 5 they had little chance of winning, and pitching had a lot to do with it. With opponents swinging the same dinky bats they made their runs count. Then again, I recall many a boneheaded play in the field and/or brain farts on the base paths. Going into 2011 with the concern about the bats if someone were to have predicted LSU would score 6 or more runs in 36 games I would have said "Give me some of what you are taking".
People point to the reduced bats and its impact on HR production, but HR production still is a major impact on winning %age over the course of a season:
When LSU:
Hit 0 home runs 17-15
... 1 home run 9-5
... 2+ home runs 10-0
Hmm, 19-5 when hitting 2 or more HR's, likely some Sister or the Poor opponents thrown in there. Those games with no HR's are pretty much .500. Being that Mahtook hit 14 of the 34 team HR's someone better become a power generator a large number of at bats or the team's BA/OB% better improve. LSU hit 14 HR in SEC play, SEC opponents hit 20. Mahtook .708 SLG% in SEC play with 7 HR's and many teams could have chosen not to pitch to him.
I'll take all the 1-0 and 2-0 wins LSU can generate, but that leaves a lot to chance through 9-innings. A lot of little things need significant improvement in 2012 to enable +5 or 6 win improvement from 2011.
Scoring 0-2 runs 0-8
... 3-5 runs 3-9
... 6-9 runs 20-3
... 10+ runs 13-0
That's a lot of games scoring 2 or less, and until they scored > 5 they had little chance of winning, and pitching had a lot to do with it. With opponents swinging the same dinky bats they made their runs count. Then again, I recall many a boneheaded play in the field and/or brain farts on the base paths. Going into 2011 with the concern about the bats if someone were to have predicted LSU would score 6 or more runs in 36 games I would have said "Give me some of what you are taking".
People point to the reduced bats and its impact on HR production, but HR production still is a major impact on winning %age over the course of a season:
When LSU:
Hit 0 home runs 17-15
... 1 home run 9-5
... 2+ home runs 10-0
Hmm, 19-5 when hitting 2 or more HR's, likely some Sister or the Poor opponents thrown in there. Those games with no HR's are pretty much .500. Being that Mahtook hit 14 of the 34 team HR's someone better become a power generator a large number of at bats or the team's BA/OB% better improve. LSU hit 14 HR in SEC play, SEC opponents hit 20. Mahtook .708 SLG% in SEC play with 7 HR's and many teams could have chosen not to pitch to him.
I'll take all the 1-0 and 2-0 wins LSU can generate, but that leaves a lot to chance through 9-innings. A lot of little things need significant improvement in 2012 to enable +5 or 6 win improvement from 2011.
Posted on 2/27/12 at 6:40 pm to Macintosh
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Do you still let your assistants do all the recruiting while you sit on your arse and do nothing.
And how do you know Mainieri doesn't recruit? Please share your sources with the class. Thanks.
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