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re: Von Rosenburg
Posted on 5/19/09 at 9:19 am to Rockerbraves
Posted on 5/19/09 at 9:19 am to Rockerbraves
I saw him pitch as a freshman when Barbe played the state championship. Back then he was probably throwing 79-83 but he could throw 3 pitches wherever he wanted. I came away very impressed with his command. He may only be throwing 87 or so right now, but he is so projectable and its likely he can grow into a 90-93 guy. His velo right now isnt scaring off scouts. That being said, scouts know what his price is going to be. That's why you see more and more coming to see him. They need to know if he is worth that kind of coin. I believe he will be at LSU if he doesnt get a million.
Watch the first two rounds, if he makes it out of that, then I think Tiger fans can rest easy. If he is drafted first or second then he has clearly communicated to scouts that he will accept the deal because they wont waste such a high pick on someone who is iffy.
Watch the first two rounds, if he makes it out of that, then I think Tiger fans can rest easy. If he is drafted first or second then he has clearly communicated to scouts that he will accept the deal because they wont waste such a high pick on someone who is iffy.
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Posted on 5/19/09 at 9:52 am to d6k
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I may be wrong but I think his brother or half brother coaches at Zachary.
He has a younger brother that I believe is a freshman at Zachary High.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 9:58 am to Tony Camaro
he doesn't throw hard enough to get drafted in top 5 maybe top 10 rounds imo
Posted on 5/19/09 at 10:00 am to Enfuego
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he doesn't throw hard enough to get drafted in top 5 maybe top 10 rounds imo
yes, yes he does, its just a question of if he's signable
Posted on 5/19/09 at 10:01 am to josh336
scouts dont care how hard it throws right now. It's "how hard can he throw 3 years from now"
That's the million dollar question that could very well have a million dollar answer in 3 weeks.
That's the million dollar question that could very well have a million dollar answer in 3 weeks.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 11:25 am to BatonrougeCajun
The kid throws 90. Watch a MLB game on TV and tell me how many starting pitchers consistently throw much harder than that.
He throws hard enough.
He throws hard enough.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 11:33 am to RidiculousHype
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The kid throws 90. Watch a MLB game on TV and tell me how many starting pitchers consistently throw much harder than that.
Throwing 87-90 isnt hard enough. Scouts want to see guys throwing 90-94. This gets you signed. From there, they will get you to pitch in the 88-91 range because taking velo off creates more movement and sink.
With that beinf said. No MLB scout cares about how good he is now. They are trying to predict how good he can be in 3 years. This includes getting his velo into the low to mid 90's. which 100% will happen.
Not disagreeing with you on the subject but elaborating why you see MLB fastballs lower then the desired speed.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 11:36 am to RidiculousHype
You would think if he is fast enough to get drafted in the 1st or 2nd round he could just blow it by most HS players.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 12:16 pm to Rockerbraves
They draft on what "will you do" not "what can you do"
Why alot of All Americans and studs get drafted late or not at all. (they may be tapped out)
Why alot of All Americans and studs get drafted late or not at all. (they may be tapped out)
Posted on 5/19/09 at 2:24 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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He may only be throwing 87 or so right now, but he is so projectable and its likely he can grow into a 90-93 guy.
projectibility is certainly a consideration, but a high school righty "only" throwing 87-90 is unlikely to get drafted in the top 2 rounds.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 2:34 pm to lawball29
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projectibility is certainly a consideration, but a high school righty "only" throwing 87-90 is unlikely to get drafted in the top 2 rounds.
Yeah but dude is far from a HS pitcher. He has excellent command of multiple pitches, a great frame, and extraordinary mound presence.
You cant teach alot of that. I would take him over some squatty hot head who has one 95+ fastball that he cant throw for strikes.(these guys get drafted alot)
Posted on 5/19/09 at 2:35 pm to BatonrougeCajun
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They draft on what "will you do" not "what can you do"
True. Baseball drafts on potential more than any other sport.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 4:49 pm to wilfont
Not much baseball knowledge -was a catcher l year of college ball. 1980's vintage story- Kid from Laurel Miss, Jay Reeves sat at 94 topped at 98 and I can tell you first hand it was like trying to swat bumble bees. He signed top round with the Braves for 100k plus and busted out. Opposing pitcher in the same game was Bubby Brister- topped out at 86 and was signed by Detroit Tigers next year for 100 k plus. Busted out and went own to pro footbal career. Point being if you have the tools they will sign you if you want to play pro ball- whether you throw 86 or 96!
Posted on 5/19/09 at 8:34 pm to rocknfire
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1980's vintage story
Not to knock you.....but it was 1980. Things have changed A LOT since then. Kids throwing in the upper 80's are not as rare now.
VR will be at LSU....
Posted on 5/19/09 at 11:16 pm to lsusteve1
Without seeing the kid play, I have talked to a few people about him and as a prospect he seems pretty comparable to Wade Leblanc from the '03 Louisiana class. Leblanc decided to play for Alabama for a few years and did make his Major League debut at the end of last year. I expect ZVR to make the the same choice.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 11:22 pm to dgtiger3
if we could somehow get von rosenberg, brody colvin, shane redie, chris matulis, and ryan eades all on the same team, the amount of natural talent on the pitching staff would just be insane
Posted on 5/19/09 at 11:27 pm to DBG
Along with Ott, Zeigler, and Broussard (2010) our pitching depth would be incredible.
Posted on 5/19/09 at 11:29 pm to dgtiger3
except LeBlanc was LH
Posted on 5/19/09 at 11:40 pm to lsusteve1
MLB feels that they can teach a hard thrower how to pitch, but they can't teach a pitcher to throw hard. Velocity is God given. It can be slightly improved,but you can either throw hard or you can't. If a scout turns in an upper 80s pitcher in the first few rounds and the guy is a bust, the scout gets fired. If the scout turns in a guy with a 95 mph fastball that busts out his job is safe because "hey, that guy had a great arm".
Posted on 5/20/09 at 12:02 am to mametoo
i'm no baseball scout, but it seems like a kid who lacks great tools and gets by with moxie as an 18 year old means he's close to maxing out. it's like the QB recruits who are 6-1, 180 but who are "students of the game" with an average arm
a great example is major applewhite
a great example is major applewhite
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