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re: Wade should hire a game coach and stick to recruiting
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:04 am to I B Freeman
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:04 am to I B Freeman
Go stick to film tax credits
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:15 am to I B Freeman
You have negative basketball IQ.
I’m not gonna tell you to kill yourself because I don’t want to get banned. But if I was as stupid as you, I’d absolutely kill myself.
I’m not gonna tell you to kill yourself because I don’t want to get banned. But if I was as stupid as you, I’d absolutely kill myself.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 1:17 am to I B Freeman
I B
I’m being serious here. You’ve taken enough of a beating already. I have a few questions / comments and genuinely would like to understand where your coming from.
1 - I don’t mean this negatively, but I’d assume you haven’t played organized ball. “Motion” (or some form of it) is the “play” they, and all teams typically “run” when they cross half court. When you see the picks being set for people without the ball who are running around to catch the pass and shoot or drive, that’s the “play.” There is a very specific way to run it and, once the team gets good at it, they ad lib, make back cuts, etc to mix it up.
Sometimes, though relatively rarely, does a coach call a play, e.g. pick and role with specific players, alley hoop to a specific player, very specific picks/ double picks set for specific people. Those are usually called at dead balls but can certainly be called when crossing half court. This isn’t at all unique to LSU.
2 - you mentioned that you don’t want Wade coaching but then criticize him for letting someone else coach up the team during the timeout. Isn’t that what you’re saying you want?
2A - How would this work? Would we have to pay another coach head coaching money? Would Wade still get head coaching money? Would we have two head coaches? Are you really just saying you want a different coach? I just don’t think Wade would be okay being only head recruiter (which is usually the head coach) and not coaching the team. He’d probably leave, right?
3 - my man, fouling anyone, no matter how hot, shooting a 3 is an absolutely terrible idea and if a coach actually directed players to do that, he would no doubt be fired very quickly. An uncontested free throw is indisputably the easiest shot in basketball. And if the players cannot defend the man shooting the 3, that is the players fault or the shooter is just hot and you have to try something else, like deny him the ball in the first place; never foul a three point shot, period.
4 - while in the Pros, you have to line up on side the key during free throws, that rule does not apply in college. However, I would concede that you are correct, it’s a better idea to have them lined up to rebound than to not.
I would bet money that this was not done while the other team shot the free throw. That would be a bad coaching move, for sure, in almost all situations.
It’s very difficult to get the rebound when your team is shooting the free throw. It’s typically 3-4 of them and only 2 of your own guys and they have the dominant position. Sometimes, if a coach wants to be sure his team is back on defense to stop them from coming down and scoring, he might not line up players in both spots on the key.
I know this was long as shite. But it’s late and I’m just chillin, and honestly want to talk about it a little bit with you. I’m just watching TV, taking tomorrow off...
I’m being serious here. You’ve taken enough of a beating already. I have a few questions / comments and genuinely would like to understand where your coming from.
1 - I don’t mean this negatively, but I’d assume you haven’t played organized ball. “Motion” (or some form of it) is the “play” they, and all teams typically “run” when they cross half court. When you see the picks being set for people without the ball who are running around to catch the pass and shoot or drive, that’s the “play.” There is a very specific way to run it and, once the team gets good at it, they ad lib, make back cuts, etc to mix it up.
Sometimes, though relatively rarely, does a coach call a play, e.g. pick and role with specific players, alley hoop to a specific player, very specific picks/ double picks set for specific people. Those are usually called at dead balls but can certainly be called when crossing half court. This isn’t at all unique to LSU.
2 - you mentioned that you don’t want Wade coaching but then criticize him for letting someone else coach up the team during the timeout. Isn’t that what you’re saying you want?
2A - How would this work? Would we have to pay another coach head coaching money? Would Wade still get head coaching money? Would we have two head coaches? Are you really just saying you want a different coach? I just don’t think Wade would be okay being only head recruiter (which is usually the head coach) and not coaching the team. He’d probably leave, right?
3 - my man, fouling anyone, no matter how hot, shooting a 3 is an absolutely terrible idea and if a coach actually directed players to do that, he would no doubt be fired very quickly. An uncontested free throw is indisputably the easiest shot in basketball. And if the players cannot defend the man shooting the 3, that is the players fault or the shooter is just hot and you have to try something else, like deny him the ball in the first place; never foul a three point shot, period.
4 - while in the Pros, you have to line up on side the key during free throws, that rule does not apply in college. However, I would concede that you are correct, it’s a better idea to have them lined up to rebound than to not.
I would bet money that this was not done while the other team shot the free throw. That would be a bad coaching move, for sure, in almost all situations.
It’s very difficult to get the rebound when your team is shooting the free throw. It’s typically 3-4 of them and only 2 of your own guys and they have the dominant position. Sometimes, if a coach wants to be sure his team is back on defense to stop them from coming down and scoring, he might not line up players in both spots on the key.
I know this was long as shite. But it’s late and I’m just chillin, and honestly want to talk about it a little bit with you. I’m just watching TV, taking tomorrow off...
Posted on 2/12/20 at 6:03 am to I B Freeman
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Yes sir squeezing out a win against a top program like Missouri after that loss to Vandy and that loss to Auburn was a huge accomplishment.
It absolutely would have been better if we would have lost right?
You people are insufferable.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 6:07 am to I B Freeman
Post less.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 6:11 am to I B Freeman
Of course I disagree with this, but I do think he stuck with that 3/4 trap way to long, much like he did against Vandy. Not sure why he keeps it up so long when it's ineffective and compromises the D on the back end.
And I'm going to have to call in his show and ask why he rarely puts any of our players at the FT line when we are shooting. Drives me nuts, I have to hear his rationalization for it. I don't understand it.
And I'm going to have to call in his show and ask why he rarely puts any of our players at the FT line when we are shooting. Drives me nuts, I have to hear his rationalization for it. I don't understand it.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 6:16 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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We have good talent but it’s an awkward mix of players with no true post or point guard, and no outside shooters.
It creates problems for a coach, especially defensively.
And I’m not sure Marlon Taylor would start for more than a couple SEC teams.
Well said. I don’t mean this in a negative way bc I love this team and the toughness they typically show, but from a pure talent standpoint, it’s not an elite team if we are being honest. It’s a collection of role players blended together. There’s not one sure fire first pick out there. Beyond Watford you’ve got maybe 2 guys who could get a look.
To be where we are is all coaching
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:20 am to I B Freeman
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Our first 6 players could start for ANY SEC team.
Funny that I’m reading this now, right after looking at SI’s latest first round mock. SEC has 5 players projected to be taken in the first round. Want to guess how many of our guys are on that list?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:38 am to I B Freeman
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You boys are right. We really should not expect to win any game but for the coach.
You're embarrassing yourself. People are giving you substantive answers, and all you're doing is throwing mud.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:22 pm to I B Freeman
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Ok you guys are right. Wade is the greatest and getting more out of mediocre talent than anybody else. The offensive plays he runs are so good that you can't even tell he called them. That defense is just out of the world. Those threes our opponents throw up never go in.
With every post you sound dumber. Will Wade won the sec and is basically tied for first right now and you think he should hire a coach to handle the games while he just recruits. That’s one of the most idiotic, outlandish things I’ve ever heard in reference to basketball. On top of that you keep making sarcastic response posts in total denial of how dumb your post was. I don’t like to be reminded that there are people this stupid that are just allowed to be in the world so I’m going to assume you are a troll
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:36 pm to I B Freeman
Tex Winter isn’t ever walking through that door again. Dead serious.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:38 pm to I B Freeman
quote:take off the P&G glasses and you'll see this is mostly correct. It doesn't take long to see that our offense is basically spreading the floor and running a high ball screen. That's it. No off-ball picks, no movement at all. Nothing.
We have outstanding talent and hardly any game plan.
Defense - we'll mostly man-to-man without much in-game adjustments (see the Auburn second half).
Remember, it doesn't mean you're a terrible LSU fan to acknowledge that a coach is a great recruiter but not a great in-game, x-and-o coach. Hell, Dale Brown was like this. So was Les Miles.
And both of them had a ton of success before it went downhill.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:43 pm to I B Freeman
Does the OP even "SEC champs 2019"?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:44 pm to atltiger6487
This is simply not true. We have a lot of off ball screens and movement and we run several sets. Yes he wants to be spread and up tempo so we do have quick possessions but if we didn’t you guys would cry about the offense being out dated. On defense he switches up as much as anybody. Don’t let his lack of appreciation for hot shooting and 3s confuse the issue, he switches Ds a lot.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:56 pm to atltiger6487
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take off the P&G glasses and you'll see this is mostly correct. It doesn't take long to see that our offense is basically spreading the floor and running a high ball screen. That's it. No off-ball picks, no movement at all. Nothing.
And despite what you claim, we have one of the best offensive teams in the country. That’s with no true post player, no true PG, no pure shooters and very little depth to speak of.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:00 pm to lsu2006
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very little depth to speak of.
This is what is killing us right now. Manning getting hurt is not helping at all.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:03 pm to I B Freeman
Wow. I guess everyone entitled to opinion even at detriment to others.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:17 pm to Tiger Ugly
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And I'm going to have to call in his show and ask why he rarely puts any of our players at the FT line when we are shooting. Drives me nuts, I have to hear his rationalization for it. I don't understand it.
Good question.
I’d guess for two reasons, rest and to prevent fouls on his three big guys.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:34 pm to lsu2006
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And despite what you claim, we have one of the best offensive teams in the country. That’s with no true post player, no true PG, no pure shooters and very little depth to speak of
Many of the characteristics work in our favor on O.
We have no post players, but our smaller, quicker big men are hard for slower post players to guard.
We have big guards that frequently score over true PGs who are generally shorter.
But it works the other way on D.
Our shorter guys have issues in the paint.
Our big guards have issues guarding quicker guards who drive on us.
Our lack of depth caused us to “ rest” on D.
We’d really be something with a playmaker at the point who could defend, a rim protector and a sniper. We’d match up better and we could go harder longer.
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