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re: Why should anyone care what the “buyout” is?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:12 am to Bruce Lee
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:12 am to Bruce Lee
quote:. Try reading again or have someone that understands comparative contrast, read it out loud to you.
Dude it’s not remotely close to 200mn? Your argument is based on an outlandish and irrelevant assumption. Try again
Your OP wouldn’t even be here at the buyout was not 54 million. You even go as far to mention Woodward with his hat in hand and the taxpayer.
Your dumbass is talking about a lot of money.
Comparative contrast when you take it further and mention that if the buyout was 200 million (and also: in the sentence it says in “sake for your argument”), that yes, LSU fans care flabiut a smaller number at 54mm. 99.9% won’t pay a direct penny.
Will they pay more for fries and chicken, now? Maybe. But they are tired of outlandish buyouts that keep increasing
Miles buyout was estimated at 12.3 million
Orgeron settled at 17
Kelly at 54.
I’m not surprised that all of that flew way over your head.
You Try again.
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 6:14 am
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Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:30 am to Bruce Lee
True, but buyout numbers indicate what may be available for the next coaching staff. It gives fans an idea of what LSU can do next.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:48 am to Bruce Lee
It absolutely is being paid completely with tax payer dollars. Don’t be naive.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:53 am to Bruce Lee
No one is against buying Kelly out and fully understand why it had to be done vs waiting
People are pissed because it HAD to be done due to Woodward hubris.
People are pissed because it HAD to be done due to Woodward hubris.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:54 am to WarBoudin
How do you figure ? It was privately raised money
Posted on 10/29/25 at 6:55 am to Bruce Lee
quote:
Do you know how much money LSU may or may not have / make in the future to pay for.. what?
Did you run the numbers and forecast how much it would cost LSU NOT to move on from Bk? Ticket sales, merch, etc etc etc.
Do you know how much LSU made over the last 3+ years under Bk and Scott.
Do you know how much lsu could make by going to the cfb playoffs, secg and winning a nc. How much the players could make?
Am I not allowed to think it’s good that we were able to buy him out, while also thinking that paying less in buyouts is better?
You asked why anyone cares what the buyout is. Regardless of whether buying him out is the right call, it’s still objectively better to pay a $10m buyout than a $50m buyout.
So I guess I don’t really understand your point. Was this just a thread to simp for Woodward?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:07 am to lsufball19
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it's not a zero sum game. a billionaire paid the buyout, drop in the bucket for him. there's no indication it will have an effect on the ability to pay another coach or provide NIL funds for players
Concern is that the next coach will expect higher pay and at least same guaranteed term. In today's annual mercenary hiring of players from the portal, it's increasingly difficult to build culture that coincides with a long-term guaranteed contract. I'd much rather see an incentive laden contract to keep the coach hungry to perform and produce.
But why would a top-tier coach accept that? The landscape is set and it's going to be difficult to change to match the aspect of today's game.
Posted on 10/29/25 at 7:29 am to Bruce Lee
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If Scott had to go hat in hand and humbly beg for the money - he did, he got the money, and now bk is gone without costing taxpayers. Sounds like a win win? What am I missing?
That's not the point! The reality is he negotiated a horrible deal and LSU got lucky to have someone step up. What happens when no booster steps up?
The reality is Woodward is responsible for negotiating two of largest buyouts in history. Yes, he also negotiated Fisher's horrible contract, so at one point do we hold him accountable for his actions?
Posted on 10/29/25 at 9:40 am to homemadeshine
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The reality is Woodward is responsible for negotiating two of largest buyouts in history. Yes, he also negotiated Fisher's horrible contract, so at one point do we hold him accountable for his actions?
are people really going to keep repeating this lie. The contract Woodward negotiated for Fisher was 10 years for 75 million. That was in 2018. Woodward left A&M the next season. In 2021, Ross Bjork (the AD at A&M) renegotiated Jimbo's contract, gave him a 2.5 million/year raise and increased his buyout to 96 million. Then Ross Bjork fired him 2 years later and paid him 77 million in buyout money. That's not on Woodward. This lie really needs to die but I'm sure I'll continue to see these same ignorant posts.
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The reality is he negotiated a horrible deal and LSU got lucky to have someone step up.
Can you find me a head coach at a major school right now that doesn't have similar or worse buyout terms than Kelly?
This post was edited on 10/29/25 at 9:41 am
Posted on 10/29/25 at 10:04 am to homemadeshine
Firing Scott Woodward right now is not a prudent course of action.
Does Scott bear responsibility for the current state of affairs? Yes.
Did Scott make a good hire in BK? No, in hindsight.
Did Scott do the right thing by firing BK? Yes.
Did Scott raise the money from private donors for the buyout? Yes.
Will the buyout negatively impact LSU's ability to hire the next HC, staff, pay NIL?
TBD. AD's relationship with donors -> ability to raise funds -> ability sell tickets, advertising, sponsorships.. -> ability to convince an outstanding coach to come to LSU are the most important considerations at present.
Will the buyout lead to increased ticket prices over the next few years?
TBD. If LSU reaches the CFB playoffs, wins the SECCG, or NC, in the next 1-2-3 years, and reaps the financial benefit of such success, maybe not.
Although raising ticket prices could have been the initial plan for the buyout. Landry steps in publicly criticizing the idea, then we learn private donor(s) will fund the buyout.
If this is how it played out, Kudos to Landry for holding Scott / donors feet to the fire and forcing them to raise the money without burdening the fan base, at least for next year.
Bottom line it was going to cost LSU much more to keep Kelly, in terms fundraising and actual revenues. The rapid deterioration of the product simply makes it more and more expensive to fix, potentially leading to a prolonged period of mediocrity, irrelevance, and cash burn.
It's a win big / lose big situation that will snowball up or down - no middle ground.
LSU's best course is to suck it up, take the hit, rally the troops and make a great decision with the next HFC. The ceiling remains incredibly high.
Does Scott bear responsibility for the current state of affairs? Yes.
Did Scott make a good hire in BK? No, in hindsight.
Did Scott do the right thing by firing BK? Yes.
Did Scott raise the money from private donors for the buyout? Yes.
Will the buyout negatively impact LSU's ability to hire the next HC, staff, pay NIL?
TBD. AD's relationship with donors -> ability to raise funds -> ability sell tickets, advertising, sponsorships.. -> ability to convince an outstanding coach to come to LSU are the most important considerations at present.
Will the buyout lead to increased ticket prices over the next few years?
TBD. If LSU reaches the CFB playoffs, wins the SECCG, or NC, in the next 1-2-3 years, and reaps the financial benefit of such success, maybe not.
Although raising ticket prices could have been the initial plan for the buyout. Landry steps in publicly criticizing the idea, then we learn private donor(s) will fund the buyout.
If this is how it played out, Kudos to Landry for holding Scott / donors feet to the fire and forcing them to raise the money without burdening the fan base, at least for next year.
Bottom line it was going to cost LSU much more to keep Kelly, in terms fundraising and actual revenues. The rapid deterioration of the product simply makes it more and more expensive to fix, potentially leading to a prolonged period of mediocrity, irrelevance, and cash burn.
It's a win big / lose big situation that will snowball up or down - no middle ground.
LSU's best course is to suck it up, take the hit, rally the troops and make a great decision with the next HFC. The ceiling remains incredibly high.
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