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re: Will Wade on LSU’s commitment to basketball
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:53 am to Madking
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:53 am to Madking
quote:
Madking
100%, the truth is Wade was made the scapegoat at the time to take the heat off LSU football if you remember was being investigated. Woody, Alleva, and Tate decided chopping Wade got them some grace and it panned out. That said, I've been very transparent on here that I have a good source close to the situation so I know all the facts, and Wade is very tight with Gov Landry and Rousse( who was at McNeese) and there are plenty of conversations being had NOW to bring him back...
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:56 am to EPORE
Its happening. that is Wade's way of speaking in codes letting Verge know to just show him the commitment level he wants and he is back.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:58 am to Triple Bogey
We want to win at MBB so bad this is how we feel
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:02 am to EPORE
quote:
Wade was made the scapegoat
Right
he contributed nothing to his downfall at LSU. Do you people even hear yourselves?
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:04 am to Portcityblues
quote:
Its happening. that is Wade's way of speaking in codes letting Verge know to just show him the commitment level he wants and he is back.
It’s happearning
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:05 am to MrWalkingMan
Lots of poor takes within the thread...on both sides of the debate.
1. Wade was not fired simply because Woodward "did not like him". LSU was under IARP (NCAA) investigation. Wade was not forthcoming with Woodward/Tate...likely on the advice of counsel...because the FBI, in 2018, did investigate Wade. Ultimately, the FBI/DOJ found he committed no crimes, but I get the reluctance to be forthcoming. Which means I also get why LSU chose to fire him once the NOA hit.
2. LSU didn't get hit with crippling sanctions. Nor did the firing seem to mitigate that, despite what the "findings report" stated. There were several other programs investigated: Louisville, Kansas, Auburn, NC STATE, etc. None received significant sanctions. In fact, Kansas gave Self a de facto "lifetime" contract during the investigation. It's no coincidence the IARP was dissolved after these investigations ended.
3. The narrative that "Wade was stupid" is, itself, a bit absurd. This presumes he, or any coach, should have foreseen the possibility of the FBI/DOJ investigating college basketball recruiting...something that had NEVER been done in the history of the sport. The investigation didn't even start with recruiting. It devolved to that because the SDNY (DOJ) LOVES publicity. (See Guliani and the mob takedown). A case about some small time "financial advisor" in Pittsburgh won't draw attention. A case investigating a nationally popular sport would. While initially promised by the DOJ to "change college sports forever", the whole episode ended in the dustbin of irrelevancy. No one convicted got significant penalties and the whole saga was rendered meaningless with legality of "NIL". It was like hammering a guy for bootlegging 6 months before prohibition was repealed. At that time HCs throughout the country had dozens of conversations with "runners" about payments for blue-chip players. That's how major college recruiting worked. Wade just had the misfortune of talking to the EXACT wrong person (the only "runner" cooperating with the FBI) saying the EXACT wrong thing at the EXACT wrong time in history *(the only time in history CBB recruiting had ever been investigated)
4. The presumption that "LSU" would never consider hiring Wade again is flawed. LSU is an entity. Not a "living breathing thing". It's an entity run by people. The people in charge today are, by and large, not the same people who were in charge last year....or six years ago. The prior administration (Tate/Woodward) was adverse to Wade. The current administration isn't. "LSU" today isn't the same "LSU" 6 years ago.
5. There was a push by people with a degree of power (political and financial) at the end of last season to bring Wade back to LSU. Wade was aware of it. Tate and Woodward were NOT going to rehire Wade under any circumstances. That's why we, the fans, are enduring year 4 of McMahon when Woodward's history with every other sport shows he was willing to make a quick change as soon as the level of success dropped. And ALL of those fired coaches had significantly more success than McMahon had in 3 seasons.
If/when McMahon is fired Wade will be a candidate. There is too much support from the people with influence in LA for him to not be. His current contract at NC State won't be a large impediment because his annual salary is LESS than what LSU is currently paying McMahon...which is the lowest in the SEC because LSU has never had any reason/incentive to increase the value from the original terms (coaches who finish at or near last place multiple years generally don't get raises). That said, pulling Wade from NC St would be a much more difficult task than it would have been in getting him from McNeese. It's a good job (though it's not at all the "blue blood" job some LSU fans seem to think it is) and NC State would increase his pay to combat threats from other schools.
If I had to bet, I think the ultimate result is Wade leverages LSU for a significant raise at NC State. But to think (a) LSU won't consider him as a candidate and (b) Wade wouldn't at least consider the opportunity if foolish. But hey, I didn't think Lane Kiffin would leave his CFP bound team for LSU. Yet here we are.
1. Wade was not fired simply because Woodward "did not like him". LSU was under IARP (NCAA) investigation. Wade was not forthcoming with Woodward/Tate...likely on the advice of counsel...because the FBI, in 2018, did investigate Wade. Ultimately, the FBI/DOJ found he committed no crimes, but I get the reluctance to be forthcoming. Which means I also get why LSU chose to fire him once the NOA hit.
2. LSU didn't get hit with crippling sanctions. Nor did the firing seem to mitigate that, despite what the "findings report" stated. There were several other programs investigated: Louisville, Kansas, Auburn, NC STATE, etc. None received significant sanctions. In fact, Kansas gave Self a de facto "lifetime" contract during the investigation. It's no coincidence the IARP was dissolved after these investigations ended.
3. The narrative that "Wade was stupid" is, itself, a bit absurd. This presumes he, or any coach, should have foreseen the possibility of the FBI/DOJ investigating college basketball recruiting...something that had NEVER been done in the history of the sport. The investigation didn't even start with recruiting. It devolved to that because the SDNY (DOJ) LOVES publicity. (See Guliani and the mob takedown). A case about some small time "financial advisor" in Pittsburgh won't draw attention. A case investigating a nationally popular sport would. While initially promised by the DOJ to "change college sports forever", the whole episode ended in the dustbin of irrelevancy. No one convicted got significant penalties and the whole saga was rendered meaningless with legality of "NIL". It was like hammering a guy for bootlegging 6 months before prohibition was repealed. At that time HCs throughout the country had dozens of conversations with "runners" about payments for blue-chip players. That's how major college recruiting worked. Wade just had the misfortune of talking to the EXACT wrong person (the only "runner" cooperating with the FBI) saying the EXACT wrong thing at the EXACT wrong time in history *(the only time in history CBB recruiting had ever been investigated)
4. The presumption that "LSU" would never consider hiring Wade again is flawed. LSU is an entity. Not a "living breathing thing". It's an entity run by people. The people in charge today are, by and large, not the same people who were in charge last year....or six years ago. The prior administration (Tate/Woodward) was adverse to Wade. The current administration isn't. "LSU" today isn't the same "LSU" 6 years ago.
5. There was a push by people with a degree of power (political and financial) at the end of last season to bring Wade back to LSU. Wade was aware of it. Tate and Woodward were NOT going to rehire Wade under any circumstances. That's why we, the fans, are enduring year 4 of McMahon when Woodward's history with every other sport shows he was willing to make a quick change as soon as the level of success dropped. And ALL of those fired coaches had significantly more success than McMahon had in 3 seasons.
If/when McMahon is fired Wade will be a candidate. There is too much support from the people with influence in LA for him to not be. His current contract at NC State won't be a large impediment because his annual salary is LESS than what LSU is currently paying McMahon...which is the lowest in the SEC because LSU has never had any reason/incentive to increase the value from the original terms (coaches who finish at or near last place multiple years generally don't get raises). That said, pulling Wade from NC St would be a much more difficult task than it would have been in getting him from McNeese. It's a good job (though it's not at all the "blue blood" job some LSU fans seem to think it is) and NC State would increase his pay to combat threats from other schools.
If I had to bet, I think the ultimate result is Wade leverages LSU for a significant raise at NC State. But to think (a) LSU won't consider him as a candidate and (b) Wade wouldn't at least consider the opportunity if foolish. But hey, I didn't think Lane Kiffin would leave his CFP bound team for LSU. Yet here we are.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:08 am to rattlebucket
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We want to win at MBB so bad this is how we feel
Back in the late 80's when I was a student at LSU we used to camp out staring 3 days prior to the issuance of student tickets. Men's basketball was so much fun during that time. I would love to see that fan enthusiasm return.
With that said, look at the fan enthusiasm at Duke. They are camping out 2 months prior to game time versus UNC.
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If tweet fails to load, click here.Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:08 am to The Pirate King
I don't really blame him for lashing out at the university for subpar facilities, leaking roof etc. I wouldn't have cooperated with my employer either if I had been treated the same way he was and being suspended for postseason everytime a smear article by Yahoo sports or Dickwad Vitale was conveniently published every time the NCAA tourney rolled around. Wade knew that his spineless AD's didn't have his or his program's back so frick them
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:15 am to MrWalkingMan
I will not be the next head coach of LSU
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:25 am to EPORE
Alleva had so much shady shite going on and Woody just didn’t want him from the beginning.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:27 am to MrWalkingMan
Even when he was here the fans weren’t. Why come back? He has no ties to LSU.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:28 am to GumboPot
quote:
Back in the late 80's when I was a student at LSU we used to camp out staring 3 days prior to the issuance of student tickets. Men's basketball was so much fun during that time. I would love to see that fan enthusiasm return.
In 2007 LSU hosted UConn. It was the first (ESPN) College Basketball Game Day show of the season. Students camped out before and arrived early. There were 12K fans in attendance. LSU won easily. The Brady did what Brady always did at LSU. Followed up success with total failure by leading LSU from a ranked team at the time to a 2nd to last overall (last in SECW) finish.
LSU fans are no different than any other fans. If the program is winning they will so up. If not, they won't.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:31 am to Clark W Griswold
quote:
Even when he was here the fans weren’t.
This was in his final season at LSU. Look at all of those empty seats!!!!
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:33 am to The Pirate King
quote:
Do you people even hear yourselves?
When is McMahon going to finally win some games? I’ve asked this question to you before but you always duck and dodge it. Why is that? You chirp a lot in these type of threads but when that question is posed about your dear leader, you go silent.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:33 am to EPORE
quote:
100%, the truth is Wade was made the scapegoat at the time to take the heat off LSU football if you remember was being investigated. Woody, Alleva, and Tate decided chopping Wade got them some grace and it panned out. That said, I've been very transparent on here that I have a good source close to the situation so I know all the facts, and Wade is very tight with Gov Landry and Rousse( who was at McNeese) and there are plenty of conversations being had NOW to bring him back...
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:35 am to The Pirate King
quote:
The Pirate King
I have never said that Wade was innocent, but it could have been handled much differently, such as how Auburn handled Pearl, and Wade would have been fine with it. I mean literally one year later NIL happened and everything he was doing is now standard operating procedure. Look, if we would have hired someone competent and our mens bb program was thriving, this would not even be a topic. But as it stands, we will have a vacancy again after this season, and I'm telling you there is a very strong chance Wade will be back.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:35 am to The Pirate King
quote:
Right he contributed nothing to his downfall at LSU. Do you people even hear yourselves?
The downfall was 100% Woody.
Every other school in the country sticks by their man willing to do what it takes in a cesspool sport to win.
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:40 am to MrWalkingMan
They're poisoning his mind over there 
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:44 am to MrWalkingMan
That train has long passed
Go find a winner
Go find a winner
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:50 am to lsusteve1
quote:
That train has long passed
Go find a winner
Would a guy with a .700 career winning % across 5 different schools and a .673 winning % AT LSU (the highest in a century) suffice? Because that is what you would be getting with Wade.
I'm not saying Wade is the ONLY coach who can win at LSU. But to dismiss him as a guy who can't win is ridiculous
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