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re: Zero upside to the actions JA is taking... all downside.

Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:58 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 11:58 am to
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Trying to fire Wade for cause to get out of the contract.


that will effectively kill LSU BB
Posted by rilesrick
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:00 pm to
If there are issues,




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Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:00 pm to
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hen why didn't they suspend him when he was subpoenaed?



Because like the rest of us, they probably blew it off as not really serious or important. The events of the last few days have changed that.

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there is no reason for the LSU AD to speak to Wade about these allegations at this time


Have you ever been in management?

Take off your LSU Fan hat and put on your management hat. These allegations involve your employee and your program, which as AD, you have ultimate responsibility for. You mean to tell me he's just supposed to turn a blind eye to all of this at this time?

You have always seemed like a smart poster, SFP. Don't let your fandom cloud your otherwise good judgement.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:00 pm to
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ery likely not true. if he didn't know about these specific taps, he didn't lie (even under the LSU admin's factual allegations)

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and then refused to meet with LSU

a. this is likely bullshite. LSU AD leaked a story to cover its arse. this is their talking points to try to get cover with fans and the media

b. even if this is somewhat true, Wade can't really talk to them b/c of the trial. he can't really talk to anyone about this other than his lawyers. he's subpoenaed for a trial and the LSU AD knows this, and they know that he can't talk to them about this (for many legal reasons

you literally made up this entire post to spin a narrative. Good fricking lord some of y’all will spin Will Wade’s idiotic actions till you die. You talk about wanting to investigate and find the truth before acting and then make up an entire narrative
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:02 pm to
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hell it's likely the story isn't even 100% true.

Why is that likely? Because you don’t want to believe it?
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LSU AD clearly leaked information to frick over Wade yesterday

ok
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if this was the 100% truth, they'd have stated it in their official statement

Why?
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they leaked it like a bunch of cowards




fricking tin foil mafia is in full force this morning
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:02 pm to
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They knew what they were doing. Trying to fire Wade for cause to get out of the contract.


If WW paid for a player, that certainly would seem like "for cause".

It's not like LSU BB sucks and the AD is trying to come up with a BS reason to get out of paying a sucky coach.

And yes, I think JA needs to be suspended as well. Not for suspending WW, but for lack of institutional control.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:03 pm to
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very likely not true. if he didn't know about these specific taps, he didn't lie (even under the LSU admin's factual allegations


I mean he prob didn’t know he was tapped. But he’s talking dirty to the same freaking handler. He gamnbled & lost.


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and they know that he can't talk to them about this (for many legal reasons)



You said earlier it wouldn’t be illegal for him to talk about
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:05 pm to
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Have you ever been in management?

Take off your LSU Fan hat and put on your management hat. These allegations involve your employee and your program, which as AD, you have ultimate responsibility for. You mean to tell me he's just supposed to turn a blind eye to all of this at this time?


again, i'll post this gif from the Wire



that would effectively be the meeting b/w the AD and WW
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:06 pm to
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that will effectively kill LSU BB


Wade getting caught negotiating a pay for play on a wire tap killed LSU basketball. That’s his fault and no one else’s. Yet y’all are blaming Alleva. It’s just incredible how illogical so many of the fans are over this. If Wade wasn’t winning y’all would be volunteering to move him out of Baton Rouge.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:06 pm to
It’s beyond unreal to pull this shite now.

There is no fricking point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Good fricking lord some of y’all will spin Will Wade’s idiotic actions till you die.

you mean what's on the tape? no i'm not. where am i doing that?

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You talk about wanting to investigate and find the truth before acting and then make up an entire narrative

wut
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:07 pm to
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that would effectively be the meeting b/w the AD and WW


Well Wade would have to take that meeting and not tell his boss no
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:07 pm to
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where am i doing that?



Dude your entire post is a made up story and you not believing what has actually come out. Use your head
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:09 pm to
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I mean he prob didn’t know he was tapped. But he’s talking dirty to the same freaking handler. He gamnbled & lost.

how did he gamble?

your argument assumes LSU didn't know we were paying for players, which is a fricking laugh. if we assume reality (that LSU knows they have to pay to play), then how is WW supposed to know every piece of evidence that may come out against him when he doesn't have access to that evidence?

if he didn't know about this specific conversation being tapped, he didn't mislead LSU about his knowledge of what other facts may come out

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You said earlier it wouldn’t be illegal for him to talk about

do you want the entire upper echelon of the LSU Athletic Department to be subpoenaed to the federal trial and forced to testify about how dirty our program is? if you don't, then you don't want WW talking to them about it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:11 pm to
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Dude your entire post is a made up story and you not believing what has actually come out.

what are you talking about?

Wade is likely implicated

if the NCAA does investigate (and decide to burn down CBB), then LSU is fricked

suspending Wade has no upside b/c if we're fricked, then we're fricked

now if it isn't as bad or the NCAA doesn't investigate hard, we left our coach out to dry and that's pure downside
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:12 pm to
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suspension is perfectly fitting as you gather more facts.


Honestly, you really enjoy being so different. Knew you’d have this take before reading the thread.

Ruin a guys big moment over very vague stuff without any real ncaa pressure? You’re fine with that? Of course you are,

What good does it do at this point? Only bad can come of it. He’s innocent and now you’ve just fricked him and the team.

What resolution is coming any time soon?? Why suspend him one game? A game that can eventually decide a championship??

Alleva was wrong to rush to judgement at Duke and here he is again screwing a program prematurely.

Letting it play it is the perfect lesson to have learned while you, “gather more facts.”
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:13 pm to
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b. even if this is somewhat true, Wade can't really talk to them b/c of the trial. he can't really talk to anyone about this other than his lawyers. he's subpoenaed for a trial and the LSU AD knows this, and they know that he can't talk to them about this (for many legal reasons)



He can't talk to his boss? Sure he can.

He could go in and tell them he can't discuss specifics due to legal concerns.

He could say he had no idea that tape existed and as such answered their previous inquiry truthfully as he understood the question.

He can assure them that this will be the only thing they have or tell them that other possibilities exist.

He can assure them that he will not and cannot be compelled under oath to reveal anything that will implicate LSU without discussing specifics. Or tell them to prepare for the possibility without giving details, as well.

Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:13 pm to
This will go badly
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:13 pm to
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He could go in and tell them he can't discuss specifics due to legal concerns.

uh, that's what he did

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71944 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 12:14 pm to
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Wade is likely implicated

Likely?
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suspending Wade has no upside b/c if we're fricked, then we're fricked

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now if it isn't as bad or the NCAA doesn't investigate hard, we left our coach out to dry and that's pure downside

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