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Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:39 pm to
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That's 1/2% after taxes
Not if it's in your SEP/IRA!

Posted by TigeRoots
Member since Oct 2008
8556 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:39 pm to
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I wish I had enough money to substantially benefit off of a 1% move or less.


Truth!
Posted by FunkyTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1207 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:42 pm to
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Truth!


I thought I was going to read some insane play he made.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137214 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:42 pm to
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Not if it's in your SEP/IRA!
How the heck did you get access to my IRA?





Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137214 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:45 pm to
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I thought I was going to read some insane play he made
meh.

Most folks would settle for a 1%/day gain.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134349 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:45 pm to
Okay....MY SEP/IRA!

Posted by FunkyTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1207 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:48 pm to
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meh.

Most folks would settle for a 1%/day gain.


I mean, I know what you mean, but you get the picture. He watched his money for 20-45 minutes while they sit their cash with someone for a whole year without even looking.
This post was edited on 3/15/11 at 2:50 pm
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:51 pm to
Yeah, transaction fees for me are 25-25 BPs on average.

I gotta catch a bigger move than 1%.
Posted by FunkyTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1207 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:53 pm to
Exactly THF, I almost don't even bother unless it is around 5-6%. I can tell you I would rather sit my money for a month and gain 10-12% if I can though.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134349 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 3:03 pm to
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transaction fees for me are 25-25 BPs on average.
Schwab charges $8.95 fixed fee each buy/sell transaction. If a filled order is, for example, for $50,000, the fee comes to about 1.8 b.p.'s, which means almost a negligible factor.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 3:15 pm to
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LSURussian


YGM.

Don't feel obliged, I just thought I would offer.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134349 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 3:20 pm to
YGM
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10834 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 4:14 pm to
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Exactly THF, I almost don't even bother unless it is around 5-6%.


You could have done better than 6% buying the most recent TIPS at auction on 2/15 and selling yesterday or today. Fact.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137214 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 5:53 pm to
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Exactly THF, I almost don't even bother unless it is around 5-6%. I can tell you I would rather sit my money for a month and gain 10-12% if I can though.
OK, some different investment (non-OTish) pearls just FWIW.
There are a few days like today where very short term gains are definitely low hanging fruit.

But to be very bland (for the younger guys here), days like today (or perhaps next Monday in f/u to Options Friday) also provide great opportunities to build LONG TERM capital holdings. Admittedly, the need to consider LTCGs and tax exposure is dependent on income bracket. Admittedly the concept of holding securities a year for a 'meager' 10-30% gain isn't sexy. But it is very productive. Very! Productive!

IMO the market will pull back a bit more. When it does, pick stocks that are best in breed (sector). Buy them. Intend to keep them >1yr. Be patient. Be smart. Be frugal. Keep eyes on the horizon. Keeping in mind that ""unearned income"" is really anything but ""unearned"".

Mrs NC and I were kids who grew up in very modest situations. We're still the same people, but the "situations" have changed logarithmically. Beyond our imaginations! Success like that is all a matter of understanding personal strengths/weaknesses (i.e., BatonRouge is not WallSt), and then capitalizing on frugality and strengths. But in the moment, it's almost never sexy or a homerun.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 5:54 pm to
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But to be very bland (for the younger guys here), days like today (or perhaps next Monday in f/u to Options Friday) also provide great opportunities to build LONG TERM capital holdings. Admittedly, the need to consider LTCGs and tax exposure is dependent on income bracket. Admittedly the concept of holding securities a year for a 'meager' 10-30% gain isn't sexy. But it is very productive. Very! Productive!


Meh. If you think you can flip intra-day for 5-6%, what is the purpose of long-term holdings?
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8137 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 7:13 pm to
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Why are Gold and Silver taking a hit today? Those are usually inverse of the market and normally trend up during turmoil


Two main reasons are that the Bank of Japan sold a lot of there physical gold to pump money into there market and investors in Japan sold paper gold to cover losses in there market.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134349 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 7:37 pm to
Do you have a link for your information? Thanks.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
137214 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 7:40 pm to
This post was edited on 3/16/11 at 9:03 am
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134349 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 7:44 pm to
I tip my hat to anyone who can consistently make 5-6% intraday. I don't think even superior managers/investors can do that.
I am happy to make .50-.75% per flip net of fees. One percent intraday on a trade is a homerun.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 3/15/11 at 8:03 pm to
Eh ... my carefully-weighted index portfolio lost money today. Not very much though, under 1%. I really bit my tongue when I bought a bond index but today am happy I did, that proved useful when the Black Swan tsumani hit.
This post was edited on 3/15/11 at 8:04 pm
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