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Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:08 am to
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7938 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:08 am to
What group is the FA with so I can avoid them like the plague.

I do consulting work for a lot of them and most FAs are just using whatever methodologies and softwares the parent company has available. Unless you're UHNW they're likely setting and forgetting.
Posted by dyerbro
Member since May 2017
207 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Would something like a total stock market index fund or s&p500 index be too volatile for her situation?


If it was my 60k and 60k is my total savings then I would be reluctant to invest 60k this week in VOO. The reason I would be reluctant is that I don't like buying at the high. I think VOO is at all time high.
So
I would get the 300 dollar bonus, invest in the SPAXX then buy one share a month in VOO.
Something like that. I think they call it dollar cost averaging.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89986 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:32 am to
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What group is the FA with so I can avoid them like the plague.



something called 364 Investing, LLC

Information online is sparse and their only "website" appears to be on Facebook. The founder/CEO/advisor appears to be an engineer that has worked in concrete for decades then recently started this company on his own.

Pretty red flaggy huh? lol
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3096 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 11:51 am to
Just read the bio. I’d ask who recommended him and tell her to never speak to that person again.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3031 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:36 pm to
Yikes! His ADV part 2A disclosure on SEC.gov confirms 2% AUM and 20% annual performance fee on capital appreciation (not just realized gains) SEC.gov ADV Part 2A

Fortunately as of last reporting only 83 customers and $2.153m assets are under their management.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 4:45 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89986 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:50 pm to
Thank you for finding that information it's very helpful. Looking at that form it looks like only qualified clients are subject to those charges which my mom would certainly not be based on net worth. No idea about being a "qualified purchaser" as mentioned in 2b though??
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3031 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 4:57 pm to
I was just coming back to mention same. Perhaps, there is a way to claw some of it back if she didnt meet the requirements. Hopefully someone w a financial industry.or legal background can shed more insight.
Have you confirmed she was.actually charged at those rates? Doubtful, but best case she signed.on to that fee.structure but it wasnt applied if she didnt meet criteria. Next page (pg 5.) specifies hourly and fee based planning services so might be she was chaged.under that structure instead.
Posted by TorchtheFlyingTiger
1st coast
Member since Jan 2008
3031 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 5:11 pm to
Website is listed in SEC disclosure 364investing.com
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14640 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 6:31 pm to
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She needs a "set it and forget it"

The AI "advisor" I set up with Schwab 2 years ago is averaging 20%+ returns a year. Sometime it trades weekly, sometimes it doesn't trade for months (it has rebalanced 3x since December 2024). It's up 3.61% since 1 JAN. 0 management fees, 25% of my returns are dividends. ETA: I'm set at extremely aggressive.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 6:34 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89986 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 6:51 pm to
Can you tell me more about that
Posted by TX_Tiger23
Seabrook, Texas
Member since Aug 2013
123 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 10:01 pm to
If she has the Fidelity VIP Mid Cap Fund then this has to be a variable annuity. That’s what the VIP funds are used for. So don’t just change brokerage firms. You need to ask about the surrender charge first. It could be over or it could have 5+ years remaining.

If you don’t trust the advisor and don’t have anyone else to ask then call the annuity company and ask questions.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 8:42 am to
There is frankly no way the story in the OP is accurate.

I’m not suggesting you’re lying - but you have to misunderstand something somewhere.

There is no firm I’ve ever heard of that charges 2/20 on a mutual fund portfolio.

Eta- just finished reading the thread holy shite. There is a legitimate chance some crime was committed here.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 9:14 am
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3096 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 1:32 pm to
Based on the definition of Qualified Client in the document she shouldn’t qualify, but you should check to be sure. Honestly, 2% is ridiculous based on his qualifications.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14640 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:19 pm to
It's called the " Schwab Intelligent Portfolios."
quote:

Our robo-advisor builds, monitors, and automatically rebalances a diversified portfolio based on your goals.

24/7 live support from U.S.-based service professionals.

Get started with as little as $5,000.
Backed by our commitment to keeping costs low.
Pay no advisory fee and no commissions.


Right now, it's got about 8% of my portfolio in cash, presumably to jump on any hot opportunities that arise. 9.8% in bonds or treasuries. The rest is domestic and international stocks.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89986 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Based on the definition of Qualified Client in the document she shouldn’t qualify,


oh yeah for sure, but then it mentioned something about a "qualified purchaser" and idk what that is.

At any rate it doens't matter, I talked to her this morning and she said she hasn't signed on with this guy or paid him anything and I told her to absolutely not do anything else. In the coming week or so when I have time I'm going to get her a basic simple brokerage account setup and go from there.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89986 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:20 pm to
Nice thanks!
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61157 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

Invesco US Govt Money Fund: 16%
Invesco Global: 5%
Invesco V.I. Growth & Income: 5%
Fidelity VIP Mid Cap: 7%
Franklin Mutual Shares VIP Fund: 5%
Franklin US Govt Securities: 15%
Goldman Sachs Strategic Growth: 5%
Lord Abbett Fundamental Equity: 7%
MFS Total Return Bond Series: 15%
PIMCO Low Duration: 9%
PIMCO Short-Term: 9%
Did they run out of darts?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
59549 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

Then she is also charged 20% on any gains. I


Holy crap
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91511 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

At any rate it doens't matter, I talked to her this morning and she said she hasn't signed on with this guy or paid him anything and I told her to absolutely not do anything else.


Okay that actually makes sense.
Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
11018 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 4:49 pm to
I have an option. This is my field. Do you have a contact email?
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