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Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:25 am to SlidellCajun
You are wasting your time. There used to be reasonable financial and economic discussions on this board. It is turning into the Rant. Loud mouth people with little knowledge. My bet is the loudest on here don't have any investments and little wealth.
This thread would lead one to think that tariffs do not increase prices, and that we have no inflation. Can we get it moved to the OT?
This thread would lead one to think that tariffs do not increase prices, and that we have no inflation. Can we get it moved to the OT?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:51 am to KWL85
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This thread would lead one to think that tariffs do not increase prices, and that we have no inflation.
One thing being missed in all these discussions is, the yield on the 10 year note. @ cuts in the past few months and we're still solidly above 4%.
I can't help but wonder if, the so called "bond daddies" have a more hawkish outlook on inflation.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 12:33 pm to KWL85
Agreed
I can explain how tariffs can increase prices but I can’t make people understand it
I can explain how tariffs can increase prices but I can’t make people understand it
Posted on 12/21/25 at 1:42 pm to bigjoe1
Agree. I watch the 10-year daily. Big bond money and the banks are hawkish. They are seldom wrong.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:28 pm to KWL85
How many people complaining about out tariffs causing inflation on the one hand, but they also want to raise taxes on corporations and wealth on the other? As if those things don't cause inflation?
Posted on 12/21/25 at 2:40 pm to UltimaParadox
It’s okay, I’m about as thick skinned as they come. The nightmare inflation from tariffs never materialized to the dismay of many here.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:11 pm to SlidellCajun
I can explain to you how you are wrong, but it equally would not matter. You are too indoctrinated with your ideas.
Should you want to have a serious conversation, we can.
Should you want to have a serious conversation, we can.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 5:14 pm to Jax-Tiger
Thats worse. What they dont understand is that tariffs are not a single policy. Its part of a broader plan and that is why inflation will not change or go up.
Posted on 12/21/25 at 9:23 pm to Jjdoc
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can explain to you how you are wrong, but it equally would not matter. You are too indoctrinated with your ideas.
I’m indoctrinated by real world business. I have been on the docks and I know how tariffs are levied and who pays.
Tariffs that we levy, raise prices on the goods that they’re levied against. Tariffs that are levied on the goods that we ship overseas also raises the price of our goods.
As for the latter, I have real world experience in the impact of retaliatory Chinese tariffs on my product. It’s put a parcel dent in my exports.
As for the former, I have experienced the impact on the items that I buy from other countries.
If you don’t realize it, good for you but it’s happening. You have chosen to not realize it.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 5:36 am to BCvol
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The nightmare inflation from tariffs
Forget about the inflation argument. Tariffs bring lower economic activity. They are a tax on consumers. The government is taking their money. Money with which consumers could buy more goods and services.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:27 am to frogtown
Reality looks a lot different than your textbook ideology. I agree with Thomas Jefferson on paper in that trade should always be kept at perfect liberty. It's a simple concept that makes sense on paper yet few countries practice. Regardless of politics it's not that hard to understand that needless regulations on our part and hostile economic policies of trading partners could create a need for economic manipulation to shore up strategic industries.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 6:48 am to BCvol
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Reality looks a lot different than your textbook ideology
BS. We have the numbers. Tariffs have been tried before. You won't find any right leaning economist that will agree with you on the use of tariffs. It is as simple as that.
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it's not that hard to understand that needless regulations on our part and hostile economic policies of trading partners could create a need for economic manipulation to shore up strategic industries.
Except Trump is not doing this to "shore up strategic industries". He has put tariffs on basically all imports.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:13 am to frogtown
Ongoing negotiations benefit from leverage. Over regulations have crippled our industries and congress will not do anything to remedy the problem and Trump is doing the best he can with the tools available. I believed when he first mentioned the tariff strategy that inflation would be far worse than what I'm seeing day to day. In this case the reality is tariffs are working as intended.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 7:46 am to BCvol
Inflation Numbers still above 2% , raise rates!
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:02 am to SlidellCajun
Then break down how much more we pay on essentials from tariffs
Posted on 12/22/25 at 8:56 am to BCvol
In reality, this president is using tariffs to balance imports with exports by country. Is that how you believe capitalism should work?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 9:36 am to KWL85
No.
However, I am curious. Do you believe other countries placing exorbitant tariffs on American goods and services and receiving none in return are how capitalism works?
However, I am curious. Do you believe other countries placing exorbitant tariffs on American goods and services and receiving none in return are how capitalism works?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:03 am to KWL85
How many true capitalist countries do we trade with? Do other countries tariff our goods? Are we currently a true capitalist country? Our local and federal governments pick winners and losers all the time, we don't live in a world where everything is black and white.
I believe in the world we live in, where other countries are waging economic, judicial and electronic warfare that tariffs are a tool that can be used effectively within our current version of capitalism.
I believe in the world we live in, where other countries are waging economic, judicial and electronic warfare that tariffs are a tool that can be used effectively within our current version of capitalism.
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