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Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:31 am to
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:31 am to
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I just hope that they are not an acquisition target. The executive team could all walk away rich if they took a $12/share buyout.
Somewhat of a good concern to have, I suppose, but I agree that would be a huge downer even if we all walk with a nice chunk of change from it.

I like to think that the relative low cost to produce on a mass scale would encourage the team to avoid a buyout temptation.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:52 am to
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I like to think that the relative low cost to produce on a mass scale would encourage the team to avoid a buyout temptation.


Unless they all agreed up front that they would take this to the point of them all having to not worry about money again and selling out to a corporation with deep pockets.

It's one thing to start selling graphene. It's another to create manufacturing facilities all over the country/world, have massive R&D investments, manage thousands of employees, and keep up with all of the demand for different variants of the graphene (including government contracts and all that entails).

They are basically working out of someone's garage at this point, figuratively speaking. Do they have the management team to become a multi-billion dollar enterprise? There was some concern about the CEO, who seems to have a little Instagram model in her DNA. Could she take a buyout and become a socialite? Who knows? Kevin Bambrough and his 18 million shares would certainly make out like a bandit. Would he be happy with $200 million instead of $20 billion? I'm sure he would get over his disappointment pretty quick...

On the other hand, their business is not that labor or capital intensive, and has a very high profit margin, so as far as companies go, this seems pretty low risk and straight forward - just build enough Hyperions to satisfy the demand.

Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 9:54 am to
Ignoring - Good to see you back and posting. I hope all is well with you, and that you were just taking a break.

Post more often. I think things are going to come to a head in the next month or so...
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:15 am to
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There was some concern about the CEO, who seems to have a little Instagram model in her DNA.
is she a scientist of any kind? What is her background?
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27205 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:21 am to
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is she a scientist of any kind? What is her background?


She has an MS in Materials Science and Engineering at Arizona State University, so she has some background.

I was referring to her prior habit of posting selfies on social media, more than just her looks.

You also have to remember, HGRAF was pretty much lost before she took over. They were trying to patent and sell the Hyperion machines, and weren't having any luck. They weren't trying to make the graphene and create use cases for it.

She took a job that nobody else wanted and took the company in a different direction, so kudos for her. I'm just questioning whether the goal of their executive team is to take the company all the way to the end goal, or set it up for someone else to do that and walk away rich. Purely speculation...

ETA - if this company is an acquisition target, then the end result is still good - I would imagine a 5-10x profit over current prices, at least. If they take it all the way themselves, it could be a 100x profit. Really good versus life changing.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 10:39 am
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 10:49 am to
HGRAF is popping a bit today.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27205 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 11:08 am to
To further illustrate, this has gone from 13 cents a share to the current $2.18 in one year.

That's almost a 1700% increase. That's fantastic if you were to take your profits right now. At $2.18, it's still cheap and has the potential to go to $100 or more within two years.
This post was edited on 1/6/26 at 11:10 am
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:04 pm to
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potential to go to $100 or more within two years.


You will find me on the beach in the Bahamas before it gets to half that number. I don't think I would be able to even hold that long, the old "hogs get slaughtered" rule would keep me up at night.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27205 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:19 pm to
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You will find me on the beach in the Bahamas before it gets to half that number.


My strategy will be to sell some at various points along the way if it ever pops.

I live in Vero Beach, so the Bahamas is not far from me, as the arrow flies. I will probably just retire and stay here. I will upgrade my house and toys.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
47336 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:32 pm to
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has the potential to go to $100 or more within two years
that would be a $30+B market cap. its less than $1B now. not saying anything you don't know but that seems aggressive considering they currently have no revenue. what are the best case revenue projections assuming regulatory approval?

i'm interested because graphene is interesting. if we/they could somehow harness the immense power of carbon utility it would change the world, but in 2 years?
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27205 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:53 pm to
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that would be a $30+B market cap


Which, for a growth stock could be $2B in revenue, or about 5000 tons of graphene. Factor in that the margin is 80%, they will be profitable within 2 years. If they have a large backlog of orders, they could possibly hit $100 or more.

Obviously, we don't know what the demand is right now. Could be next to nothing. If the start making car batteries, computer chips, data centers, and ships/tanks with this stuff, the demand could be way over 5000 tons. I wouldn't expect to see graphene at that level of usage, for a while.

Oh and another use is to replace silver in solar panels with graphene ink. Better performance and much cheaper. That is another market that could grow.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
47336 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 12:58 pm to
thanks...imma poke around. of interest would be whether or not manufacturing would have to be completely re-tooled and/or started from scratch, in order to actually use those 5000 tons. and whatever the answer to that is, how long that would take. and would it happen concurrently with graphene production?

sci-fi shite could result
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:00 pm to
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I just hope that they are not an acquisition target.


On Sept. 29th, they released an article entitled something like "HydroGraph Announces Adoption of Shareholder Rights Plan"

AI says "HydroGraph's Shareholder Rights Plan (often called a "poison pill") is a defense mechanism to prevent hostile takeovers by ensuring fair treatment for all shareholders, giving the board time to find better offers, and stopping anyone from secretly gaining control by making it expensive to buy up shares without the board's approval. Adopted in late 2025, it's not in response to a specific bid but aligns with Canadian best practices and needs shareholder ratification to become fully effective for a set period, typically three years."

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If EPA approval is inevitable, the price of the stock right now is irrelevant


A dude on Yahoo finance HGRAF message board said he contacted the EPA. They emailed him that they are in final negotiations with HGRAF and will be completed by EOM.

When asked if he could post the email, he said yahoo will not allow it, but if the asker would give him an email addy, he would forward it.

If EPA gets done by the end of the month, we then begin building the Houston facility and running the pipeline. I see cash being generated by 2027 with the stock price rising, on Nasdaq, slowly until then. I am thinking my hundred bagger will be 2028-29.
Posted by NaturalBeam
Member since Sep 2007
14855 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:09 pm to
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A dude on Yahoo finance HGRAF message board said he contacted the EPA. They emailed him that they are in final negotiations with HGRAF and will be completed by EOM
shite, is it that easy?

Seems like Bambrough would've been all over that, if so. But I WANT to believe...
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27205 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:34 pm to
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sci-fi shite could result


Aliens is one of my favorite movies...
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
47336 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:50 pm to
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A dude on Yahoo finance HGRAF message board said he contacted the EPA. They emailed him that they are in final negotiations with HGRAF and will be completed by EOM
exceptional claims require exceptional evidence. Is there any?
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32001 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 1:57 pm to
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A dude on Yahoo finance HGRAF message board said he contacted the EPA. They emailed him that they are in final negotiations with HGRAF and will be completed by EOM


That sounds like BS to me. The EPA answered some random dude with intimate details of the application status but then told him he want allowed to share it with anyone online?

Smells like a turd to me.

Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2734 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:26 pm to
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That sounds like BS to me. The EPA answered some random dude with intimate details of the application status but then told him he want allowed to share it with anyone online?

Smells like a turd to me.


I agree, but it sounds like he couldn't figure out how to do it via Yahoo email.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
27205 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 2:40 pm to
Guess we'll find out won't we?
Posted by FieldEngineer
Member since Jan 2015
2734 posts
Posted on 1/6/26 at 3:21 pm to
Nice little end of day run!
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