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Posted on 6/10/16 at 6:36 am to GGShin
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3. Publics don't choose their districts either.
Agreed. But what is the point is forcing teams to play in district when they are being forced to play in a separate playoffs.
Example: Why should Ascension Catholic, St. john and Ascension Christian be forced to travel to Kentwood? It would make more sense for those schools to have the option to schedule local private schools instead.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 7:28 am to chalmetteowl
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What needs to be done is a grandfather clause... any LHSAA school can play any school that was a member in good standing as of a certain date...
Nah.... all hell fixing to break loose
Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:05 am to choupiquesushi
maybe so, but that doesn't mean stop teams from playing each other over this stuff
Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:27 am to chalmetteowl
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maybe so, but that doesn't mean stop teams from playing each other over this stuff
if you know how to contact me off here - do so - I'll tell you what Im hearing....
Posted on 6/10/16 at 8:56 am to choupiquesushi
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Nah.... all hell fixing to break loose
I really wouldn't call it all hell. At least not for the privates. Maybe all hell for the publics when they are left to clean up the mess they created. The association wouldn't even need all private schools to come. Half the LA private schools would still provide enough teams, assuming all 15 or 16 of the big private schools came.
ETA: I'd actually see something done sooner rather than later, as with the smaller amount of schools to take care of, the private league could easily set up their playoff system and set up some championship sites.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 9:01 am
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:01 am to choupiquesushi
no I don't... but i don't forsee any changes to this year's football schedules... with signed game contracts already filed
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:04 am to chalmetteowl
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no I don't... but i don't forsee any changes to this year's football schedules... with signed game contracts already filed
I see that as an issue more for public schools. If there were last minute changes to schedules because publics changing the rules to now allow privates to play them, I'm sure schools would just reach out to each other to fill those dates.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:06 am to GhostofJackson
the issue is private schools backing out of signed game contracts with public schools that voted for a split... as much as i sympathize with the privates, they shouldn't be doing this...
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:08 am to chalmetteowl
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the issue is private schools backing out of signed game contracts with public schools that voted for a split... as much as i sympathize with the privates, they shouldn't be doing this...
Might be a moot point if they leave the association. The games wouldn't be legal by LHSAA's own rules. The games can't be played.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:33 am to GGShin
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It is already a rule that member schools cannot play in state schools not is LHSAA. You can play out of state schools in Tournaments that don't count on your record.
That's not really applicable under current system, is it? Only a couple of schools are not part of the LHSAA. It's a whole different situation if another association forms.
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Already approved and voted through twice.
If by railroaded through from the publics with the select schools not getting any ability to decide, then yes, you are correct. That is indeed the problem.
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3. Publics don't choose their districts either.
They don't... but why should a select school play in the same district as a public, if the public wants to have a separate playoff system.
This together for district, apart for playoffs is beyond asinine. At this point, I could care less if they are completely together or completely separate, but it needs to be one or the other.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 9:37 am to LSUFanHouston
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That's not really applicable under current system, is it? Only a couple of schools are not part of the LHSAA. It's a whole different situation if another association forms.
That's on the publics. I'm sure there would be a vote to change the rules last minute and I guarantee the urban schools who need those games will lose that vote and cause a shitstorm because the rural schools don't need those games.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 10:36 am to GhostofJackson
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no I don't... but i don't forsee any changes to this year's football schedules... with signed game contracts already filed
I see that as an issue more for public schools. If there were last minute changes to schedules because publics changing the rules to now allow privates to play them, I'm sure schools would just reach out to each other to fill those dates.
loopholes in contracts..... follow the money... find the answer....
where schoolboards own the stadiums.. privates have to play nice....
Posted on 6/10/16 at 10:51 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:i don't think it is... if it was truly important to split during the regular season, you'd have two select districts in 5A, one being the Catholic League and the other being St. Paul's, Catholic, Evangel, and Curtis
This together for district, apart for playoffs is beyond asinine
but it isn't. the regular season is just a means to get to the playoffs and the games that really matter
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:26 am to chalmetteowl
A HC from a Catholic high school was quoted off the record as saying one thing the principals at public schools will come to regret almost immediately is when their share of the gate for a road game to a private school disappears. With those games, the gate is split & at least here in B.R. most of those stadiums are packed on game nites. Go to an inner city public school game & you may get a gate of 50 people, all family. Same coach said " we are not wanting to leave. We are getting kicked out". Kids lose, "adults" win.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:38 am to choupiquesushi
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loopholes in contracts..... follow the money... find the answer....
where schoolboards own the stadiums.. privates have to play nice....
This is an interesting take, and might be the case here in Jefferson Parish, especially on the West Bank.
In Orleans, both Tad Gormley and Pan American are owned by City Park, where will their loyalty lie? Of course they can accommodate both sets of schools, they do it, now. The third new stadium is way in the East at Joe Brown Park, which is city-owned.
In Jefferson, the smaller schools often play at Jefferson, or Pontiff, owned by the parish recreation department, Bonnabel and Curtis' home field, Bertolino is owned by the City of Kenner.
Of course, as you may know, the Zephyrs have stepped up, and there will be Catholic League games at Zephyr this season.
I can see WAY more conflict away from Greater New Orleans.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:45 am to RedPop4
pop.. JP SCHOOLS own yenni too.. in BR only Catholic does not have their own field....and that could change any time they desire so.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:46 am to Keltic Tiger
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principals at public schools will come to regret almost immediately is when their share of the gate for a road game to a private school disappears.
People on this board keep pushing that to the side. It is a big deal for those public schools to have that. Once they don't, they will see. Some of the gates pay for some entire programs for that school year.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 11:58 am to RedPop4
we have Hannan's old home side of the stadium in Meraux collecting dust as now St. Bernard Recreation Department property... it will take comparatively less to make it ready for HS games again than it will to build a new stadium elsewhere if needed...
only problem is it's out of the way
only problem is it's out of the way
Posted on 6/10/16 at 1:30 pm to GGShin
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GGShin
You have to be a liberal..........
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