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re: Belichick: Welker's Hit on Talib Deliberate
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:45 am to Captain Fantasy
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:45 am to Captain Fantasy
quote:I think people fail to realize Denver was missing just as many stud players as New England was. Difference is Manning. Period
and also played without their 3-time pro bowl OT, Ryan Clady
and also played without starting CB Chris Harris Jr
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:46 am to undecided
I hadn't seen the block until now, but heard all the chatter about it. Really? You'd have thought it was some Warren Sapp time shite the way people were complaining. It's a legal block. And a love tap at best in the grand scheme of things.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:58 am to supatigah
quote:
welker turns away at the last second to protect himself
yep. My guess is he was looking for the ball and at the last minute looked up to see Talib.
Why would he run straight into a guy bigger than him and not brace himself? Doesn't make sense.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:59 am to RollTide1987
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Why are receivers running so wide open nowadays?
b/c NE's secondary is sh*t (made even worse w/o talib in there)... if you watched the NFCCG, you would've seen the exact oppposite... no one was open, especially SF WRs.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:59 am to Captain Fantasy
Von Miller and Derek Wolfe combined for 24.5 sacks last season. Starting safety Rahim Moore was out. Denver was just as beat up on defense as New England were.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 10:59 am to Captain Fantasy
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denver also played without one of their best defensive lineman
and also played without their best lbr in vonn miller
Denver was out 7 starters:
Chris Harris (CB)
Ryan Clady (LT)
Von Miller(LB)
Kevin Vickerson (DT)
Rahim Moore (S)
Derek Wolfe (DE)
Dan Koppen & DJ Walton (2 Centers)
2 made the pro bowl last year. Every team has injuries but Denver is pretty banged up too.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 11:03 am
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:01 am to lsupride87
quote:Starters missing: Ryan Clady, 1st and 2nd string centers, Von Miller, Kevin Vickerson, Rahim Moore, Derek Wolfe, and Chris Harris.
I think people fail to realize Denver was missing just as many stud players as New England was. Difference is Manning. Period
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:02 am to RollTide1987
quote:Or 6...starters.
New England also played without their best DL and LB. That whole team was decimated by injury. Denver is loaded. They could afford an injury or two. New England could not.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:04 am to TTsTowel
I acknowledge Denver was without a lot of their starters. However...they had much more depth than New England at the positions that truly matter on the field: WR and RB.
Denver's offense is absolutely LOADED at the skill positions. Offense is what wins games in this era of NFL football and Denver has what is arguably the best offense in the history of the game this year.
Denver's offense is absolutely LOADED at the skill positions. Offense is what wins games in this era of NFL football and Denver has what is arguably the best offense in the history of the game this year.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:05 am to TTsTowel
quote:
Or 6...starters.
Better depth.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:08 am to RollTide1987
quote:I disagree. Both teams had injuries, but Manning was the difference yesterday.
Better depth.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:13 am to RollTide1987
I smell a bunch of excuses.
Had Peyton Manning lost, and been in the same exact position Tom Brady was in this year, he would have been bashed by all of his critics, including you. It needs to go both ways here.
Had Peyton Manning lost, and been in the same exact position Tom Brady was in this year, he would have been bashed by all of his critics, including you. It needs to go both ways here.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:14 am to lsupride87
quote:
I disagree. Both teams had injuries, but Manning was the difference yesterday.
I was at the game. Manning did a great job. A TERRIFIC job. But he had wide receivers running open all day long. On some of those plays yesterday he had about 2 or 3 different open receivers to choose from.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:17 am to RollTide1987
quote:So did Brady, and he missed them. If Brady hits those two wide open receivers it is a completely different game
But he had wide receivers running open
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:17 am to undecided
Shoulda kept him then bill don't
bout it now..
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:20 am to lsupride87
quote:
So did Brady, and he missed them.
Not so much. He didn't play a great game at all, and he missed those two throws, but his wide receivers were getting little separation from Denver's defensive backs.
quote:
If Brady hits those two wide open receivers it is a completely different game
Disagree. Those throws would have put them deep in Broncos territory but the Patriots were struggling in the red zone all day long. Without Gronkowski they aren't as lethal in the red zone as they were when he was healthy and playing. Gronk was the difference maker in the first game with the Broncos. Without him and without Talib on defense, the Patriots didn't really stand much of a chance.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:21 am to TTsTowel
Oh if manning would have lost they would have 50 threads on how he chokes but because it was precious Brady it's everyone else's fault.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:21 am to RollTide1987
quote:The first throw was a TD. No question about it
Those throws would have put them deep in Broncos territory but the Patriots were struggling in the red zone all day long.
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:23 am to lsupride87
quote:
The first throw was a TD. No question about it
Yeah. Probably. Like I said...Brady didn't play a good game at all. He missed throws when they counted, but he also didn't get any help from his wide receivers.
It was clear to me in the first quarter who the better team was. The Broncos were much faster on offense and their defense was surprisingly suffocating.
This post was edited on 1/20/14 at 11:24 am
Posted on 1/20/14 at 11:24 am to undecided
..and Belicheat didn't know his guys were taping the other team's Super Bowl prep?
GFY, Bill.
GFY, Bill.
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