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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27818 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:25 pm to
Mozgov, Shump and JR and all you gave up was Waiters and some picks in the late 20s?

Cavs are so much better today than they were a week ago.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36740 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:26 pm to
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At this point, those will be late second rounders.


The Memphis pick is the better of the two. By 2017 it's only top 5 protected. The OKC pick will likely be either a late first or two second rounders, though.
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
Member since Nov 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:36 pm to
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they are protected

That Memphis pick has some serious potential.
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
Member since Nov 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:38 pm to
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I heard of this guy before.

Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:41 pm to
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That Memphis pick has some serious potential.



Lulz
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:54 pm to
Cavs look more like team now.


However, It will be funny to see the sycophants start calling out those who laughed at the Cavs for the team they assembled over the summer.

When LBJ played GM(and by writing The Letter,Mike Miller's instagram he was), this team took a dive, now they are course correcting. Good for Griffin.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:57 pm to
Yeah I am starting to buy the hype in Griffin that was sold to us all offseason. Really seems to have righted things.
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
89915 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:13 pm to
Good podcast with Jalen/Jacoby/Simmons this week. They talked about Mozgov and Koufas as trade targets for the Cavs.


Now with Mozgov protecting the rim, Love and Thompson can play their natural positions and maybe Love can play up to his potential

Jalen said he thinks LBJ took two weeks off so he can heal up, the team can play without him and find their confidence and he can get his batteries recharged
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:19 pm to
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I dont see how the Cavs can keep getting players and making moves. I thought they were pretty much stuck with their cap figures? Oh wait, I forgot the NBA will basically bend over for anything LeBron related.



Cavs actually set themselves up to be able to make multiple moves when they got Love and Lebron. They still have their biggest asset (Brendan Haywood) who has a 10 mill non-guaranteed salary next year which will be HUGE trade bait for teams. Them having early bird rights on Lebron and Love also helps if they stay. Their only questionable move this offseason was signing Verajo to 4/10mill. Dude is injured way to often.

Cavs are set if they can just learn to mesh together. Hoping the Waiters trade gives them a boost. Dudes a known cancer.

This week they have basically just dumped Waiters and Memphis's 1st round draft pick for JR Smith, Iman Shumpert, and Mozgov.

This gives them an older better Dion Waiters, a defensive SG, and a Center. The last 2 being HUGE needs and Waiters and JR Smith being a trade off.

Cavs had a great week.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:36 pm to
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Why would you think 2 late 1st round picks are "the future?"


You have no idea where the Memphis pick is going to be by the time they get it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112684 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 9:33 pm to
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You have no idea where the Memphis pick is going to be by the time they get it.

ok, and by the time they get it, plus 3-4 years for the young player to reach his potential and lebron is, what, 35+ years old?

The Cavs aren't playing for 2020, they're playing to win now.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64257 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:15 pm to
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Hoping the Waiters trade gives them a boost. Dudes a known cancer.



Huh? Since when? I thought he was a rising star? He's been in the league less than 3 years. I figured it takes a little longer than that to get the "cancer" label. JR Smith fits the "cancer" mold better than Waiters simply because he's been in the league longer and the most successful team he was ever on were those Denver teams with Iverson and Melo. JR Smith also was an integral part of the performances given by the worst team in the NBA. Same goes for Iman Shumpert. Two 40% shooters, JR with 69% FT, and Shumpert still has about 2 more weeks with a dislocated shoulder, and the chemistry is going to be awful for the Cavs, not only because the team overall is still "getting used " to each other, but these new pieces will even add to that obstacle.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 10:17 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35378 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 10:17 pm to
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The Cavs aren't playing for 2020, they're playing to win now.


Yeah I don't get some of the comments about the draft pick. Even lottery picks are often a crapshoot.
Posted by Dr. Shultz
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jun 2013
6391 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 7:57 am to
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Huh? Since when? I thought he was a rising star? He's been in the league less than 3 years. I figured it takes a little longer than that to get the "cancer" label. JR Smith fits the "cancer" mold better than Waiters simply because he's been in the league longer and the most successful team he was ever on were those Denver teams with Iverson and Melo. JR Smith also was an integral part of the performances given by the worst team in the NBA. Same goes for Iman Shumpert. Two 40% shooters, JR with 69% FT, and Shumpert still has about 2 more weeks with a dislocated shoulder, and the chemistry is going to be awful for the Cavs, not only because the team overall is still "getting used " to each other, but these new pieces will even add to that obstacle.



Waiters is a roll player who thinks he is a superstar. He legit thinks he is better than Kyrie and should be the #1 scorer. He has started multiple fights (before lebron got there) and hates being a bench player. He jacks up shitty shots constantly because he wants to get his and isn't a team player. Dion doesn't want to play the role assigned to him. He wants to be a superstar.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 9:32 am to
The most shocking part of this is that there is someone named Timofey in the NBA and he is a white dude
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112684 posts
Posted on 1/8/15 at 1:45 pm to
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Huh? Since when? I thought he was a rising star?
You thought Dion Waiters was a rising star?
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