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re: Did you believe Mark McGwire was using steroids during his HR chase in 1998?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 10:43 pm to Tarik One
Posted on 4/24/17 at 10:43 pm to Tarik One
Looking back it seems so painfully obvious but at the time I thought they were just juicing the balls or whatever and letting them use corked bats. Then all the bonds shite happened and I was like, damn how did I not see that 
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 10:58 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:amen. Steroids or not, they were elite players.
Him, Sosa, and Bonds were a huge part of my childhood.
People need to realize that there were thousands of minor league/major league players on roids who were as good as them. But only those guys get plagued as being the baseball disease of that time because they were the face of baseball. Im not saying its okay that they were on roids, but i personally think they should be in the hall of fame without a doubt. But thats just me...
Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:18 pm to Tarik One
God yes. And he was taming andro too
Posted on 4/24/17 at 11:31 pm to BeachDude022
From personal experience, Andro worked. Crazy you could buy that stuff at your local GNC back in 1998.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:17 am to Tarik One
Griffey Jr gets overlooked in his time imo because everyone jumps to steroid era and users like bonds, Sosa, McGwire, Clemens, etc.
Whether or not you care about steroids bc you think pitchers were on them too, Griffey Jrs accomplishments should carry some more wait given that he was never connected in the slightest to using. GOAT
Whether or not you care about steroids bc you think pitchers were on them too, Griffey Jrs accomplishments should carry some more wait given that he was never connected in the slightest to using. GOAT
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:20 am to Prominentwon
OT: Prominentwon
I saw an old post about a vector version of the mohawk baseball from Major League. Do you still have that file by any chance?
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I saw an old post about a vector version of the mohawk baseball from Major League. Do you still have that file by any chance?
LINK
Posted on 4/25/17 at 7:02 am to CelticDog
it was very entertaining and saved baseball because it was dying with fans from the strike years before
As others have said, you think players were clean in the 60s and 70s? you know how many players have come out and said they were doing uppers, coke, etc before and during games to get a high.
come on now
Hell, Brady Anderson and Luis Gonzales were hitting 50+ bombs
As others have said, you think players were clean in the 60s and 70s? you know how many players have come out and said they were doing uppers, coke, etc before and during games to get a high.
come on now
Hell, Brady Anderson and Luis Gonzales were hitting 50+ bombs
Posted on 4/25/17 at 10:22 am to dallastiger55
Yes. And we knew he had andro in his locker at the time. No one cared. I still don't. It was awesome.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:12 pm to Tarik One
Is water wet? Is grass green?
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:43 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:this
don't give a damn. He was hitting against pitchers who were using.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:45 pm to Winston Cup
Mcgwire was already big even in college and would of been a great slugger if he was healthy.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:50 pm to VerlanderBEAST
No he was not...
He was same size as Clark and McGuire (who was a backup catcher)
He was the tallest man on the 84 Olympic team but not the "biggest"
He was same size as Clark and McGuire (who was a backup catcher)
He was the tallest man on the 84 Olympic team but not the "biggest"
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:50 pm to Tarik One
He was on Andro and took heat for it. But ppl overlook that it was legal. McGwire was a huge man and was always big but he never really looked puffy. He always had rediculous power the sign for me was how after years of injuries and back problems he was suddenly able to stay healthy for a long period of time. Which is what really is helped with steroids. It helps you heal faster and train faster. Sosa was never a power hitter until he blew up physically so it was obvious with him.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:51 pm to Ponchy Tiger
When they found the andro in his locker they fussed about it for a couple days then it just went silent
Posted on 4/25/17 at 12:55 pm to Tarik One
It was legal, so who cares.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 1:01 pm to Woopigsooie20
There are several comments bout roids being awesome. There was an article in S.Illustrated a few yrs back, covering 4 players, on & in the Cards' system as I recall. Two of the players stayed clean the whole time, suffered injuries that kept them from ever having long careers.. The other two cheated their asses off & had lengthy careers. The 2 clean players were upset, to say the least, that they had done it the right way & had short careers, while the 2 cheaters cheated & lasted past 10 yrs. Point being, there were those few who benefited by cheating but how many other players did it right & paid the price in comparison?
Posted on 4/25/17 at 1:37 pm to Tarik One
In the early 90's McGwire, Canseco, Reuben Sierra, Ricky Henderson and Reggie Jackson all worked out at the World's Gym in Scottsdale during Spring Training. McGwire, Canseco and Jackson were all relatively open and candid among me and my friends about their steroid use and I could have even told you what they were taking. Worst-kept secret ever. Not sure about the other two but McGwire was acquiring his drugs through his brother, who was a big steroid dealer in Orange County, CA.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 1:47 pm to Ponchy Tiger
He purposely got seen with the andro, since it was legal, to quiet talk about the actual needles of much more powerful roids he was sticking himself with since Oakland.
This post was edited on 4/25/17 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:20 pm to Tarik One
My understanding of Andro at the time was that it was pretty much steroids, but it was new and wasn't made illegal yet. I put McGwire in the "uses steroids camp" but was in denial about Sosa.
Posted on 4/25/17 at 4:21 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:It was a legit small minority that thought he was on actual roids at the time....
What?
Creatine made a fortune off Marky Mark
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