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Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:15 pm to saintforlife1
Brees is not even a top 10 QB anymore
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:20 pm to dnm3305
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Career Avg's?
Not sure if you noticed, but this thread was started based on season averages.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:24 pm to saintforlife1
7 YPA with no elite wideout.
You could argue harvin could be, but he is woefully misused in seattle.
You could argue harvin could be, but he is woefully misused in seattle.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:28 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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Oh, and he won the Super Bowl last year FWIW. Not many game managers can say that.
Treat dilfer can
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:30 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
quote:pretty sure he's far from it now.
Brees is not even a top 10 QB anymore
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:31 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
LOL
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:37 pm to TH03
Brad Johnson also says hello.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:39 pm to The Egg
quote:Far from it?
pretty sure he's far from it now
Average would be 16th, and I have no clue as I haven't looked, but even if the stats show him to be average(through only 5 games, so there's some sample size in play here), I'm not sure anyone would argue he's average or worse, generally speaking.
If you had some sort of draft, taking just QBs finding some non-biased group, I don't see any scenarios where he's taken that low.
This post was edited on 10/13/14 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:52 pm to saintforlife1
Since when did passing yards become the most important metric of a QB? As others have stated, if you are going to judge him solely on his passing yards (which doesn't make sense in the first place), you have to include his running yards as well. Basically this has to be one of the weakest statistics-based arguments that I have seen.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:55 pm to shel311
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So, what is a game manager?
Numbers don't lie. Russell Wilson and Alex Smith (att/g, comp/g, yds/g) aren't like the rest of the QBs in the list below and we know Smith is a game manager. So what does that make Wilson?
Wilson is 30th in the league in yards per game. He sure is in some rarefied company there with Derek Carr, Jake Locker and Geno Smith:
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:59 pm to saintforlife1
quote:Your numbers and attempts do because you arent putting in rushing yards and attempts. Please do that and update your chart
Numbers don't lie
Posted on 10/13/14 at 12:59 pm to saintforlife1
quote:I can't view your pic here at work.
Numbers don't lie. Russell Wilson and Alex Smith (att/g, comp/g, yds/g) aren't like the rest of the QBs in the list below and we know Smith is a game manager. So what does that make Wilson?
I can tell you that in his rookie season and 2nd season, Russell Wilson was 4th in the entire NFL both seasons in yards per attempt. You know what game managers don't do? That.
This season he's not off to as good of a start, but i'll take the 32 game sample size over 5.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:00 pm to saintforlife1
quote:His rating is 99 while the others is in the 70s
Wilson is 30th in the league in yards per game. He sure is in some rarefied company there with Derek Carr, Jake Locker and Geno Smith:
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:00 pm to saintforlife1
Out of all of the elite QBs, Wilson is 2nd in yards/attempt and 2nd in QB rating. Nice 
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:01 pm to TDawg1313
quote:But but but but but but .....
Out of all of the elite QBs, Wilson is 2nd in yards/attempt and 2nd in QB rating. Nice
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:05 pm to saintforlife1
How many people have to tell you to go by total yards per game before you actually do it? You are worthless in a worthless thread.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:05 pm to TDawg1313
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Out of all of the elite QBs, Wilson is 2nd in yards/attempt and 2nd in QB rating. Nice
When you can hide behind the running game of Lynch and the elite defense by throwing almost 10 times less per game than all other elite QBs, you tend to have some gaudy numbers in certain metrics.
I'd like to see Wilson try to keep up the same yards/attempt and QB rating while throwing for 35-40 times like these other QBs (Brees, Manning, Luck) are asked to do regularly.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:07 pm to saintforlife1
quote:I would like to see Manning and Brees rush for 50 yards a game and attempt 8-10 rushes a game
I'd like to see Wilson try to keep up the same yards/attempt and QB rating while throwing for 35-40 times like these other QBs (Brees, Manning, Luck) are asked to do regularly.
Posted on 10/13/14 at 1:08 pm to saintforlife1
quote:Can you get accurate facts, at least?
by throwing almost 10 times less per game than all other elite QBs
And throwing less doesn't in any way, shape, or form lend itself towards better stats.
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