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re: More LHSAA… they want to allow one free transfer again…

Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:02 am to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:02 am to
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Give me more money
Give me more money
Give me more money
Give me more money


All of this over high school athletics which is supposed to be about home grown kids representing their schools and thier communities on the athletic fields. College athletics is in a crisis right now and you want to march high school athletics down the same path.


thats fine if you dont want to invest in your kids, then dont get mad when kids want to go to schools and communities that do


and if you noticed....what was the first item i listed?

"DEVELOP A BETTER TAX BASE"

I.E. grow the economy in your area.


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College athletics is in a crisis right now and you want to march high school athletics down the same path.



college athletics has more viewers than ever

you and I may not like all the transferring or nil stuff but it is not hurting the game overall.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37452 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:03 am to
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Thing is, the Northshore public schools would benefit because they’re places parents want to be…


why is that? maybe because of who they will be attending school with vs a place like chalmette and the expectations on those kids and the vested interest the families have?
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:18 am to
Very bad idea. Kids can already choose what school they go to as long as the school accepts them, so this is not an academic issue. This is purely for sports. It's a typical American argument to point out the 1% who might benefit realistically from this type of arrangement, and ignore the 99% which are abusing the system for sports reasons.

Look at colllege sports which have gotten worse each year since Covid. That is what we will be looking at with HS.

Team will be worse, good coaches will decide to retire and not deal with recruiting his team each year (ala Saban), and kids actually won't develop because they'll get caught up in the shuffle of constantly finding a new team because mark my words, this will end up like the NCAA and there will be no limit to the number of transfers.

The bleeding hearts will point out the 1% and ride them until there are unlimited transfers.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:41 am to
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why is that? maybe because of who they will be attending school with vs a place like chalmette and the expectations on those kids and the vested interest the families have?


See that’s the thing, public schools are all at the mercy of their demographics. Because other public schools in other districts with bad demographics are bad, it hurts the good ones.

I think we’d benefit though as long as we gave a shite. Just got to get our head out of our arse. There’s plenty of kids in Orleans and Jefferson public schools that would come to us. Karr can only have 22 starters, etc.

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All of this over high school athletics which is supposed to be about home grown kids representing their schools and thier communities on the athletic fields.


Then everyone with home grown kids started losing to J.T. so now we have to do what we have to do. I don’t care where our kids come from if we win. Never have minded sharing Mitch with Pensacola
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 12:01 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37452 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 11:58 am to
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Very bad idea. Kids can already choose what school they go to as long as the school accepts them, so this is not an academic issue. This is purely for sports. It's a typical American argument to point out the 1% who might benefit realistically from this type of arrangement, and ignore the 99% which are abusing the system for sports reasons.


this isnt true. if you live out of zone, even if 100 feet and do not go to the feeder school for middle...not eligible to play varsity as a freshman

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Look at colllege sports which have gotten worse each year since Covid. That is what we will be looking at with HS.


it would be a 1 time thing. not free transfer at will

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Team will be worse, good coaches will decide to retire and not deal with recruiting his team each year (ala Saban), and kids actually won't develop because they'll get caught up in the shuffle of constantly finding a new team because mark my words, this will end up like the NCAA and there will be no limit to the number of transfers.


again not close to the same

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The bleeding hearts will point out the 1% and ride them until there are unlimited transfers.


if its only 1% why do you care what 1% does?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37452 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:03 pm to
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See that’s the thing, public schools are all at the mercy of their demographics.


that was my point lol

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I think we’d benefit though as long as we gave a shite. Just got to get our head out of our arse. There’s plenty of kids in Orleans and Jefferson public schools that would come to us. Karr can only have 22 starters, etc.


agree with that. yall have the facilities.
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3534 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:09 pm to
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This is purely for sports. It's a typical American argument to point out the 1% who might benefit realistically from this type of arrangement, and ignore the 99% which are abusing the system for sports reasons.



In what way is it abuse if the family/student-athlete decide to invest in athletic talent that could potentially get an athletic scholarship if the athlete is in the right program? Why should school choice only be about academics? A lot of Olympic athletes are home schooled to invest heavily in their athletic talent. Why can't a football player or any other sport that needs a school team to compete choose to invest in the best possible program for their future? There are hundreds of schools from FBS and FCS to D2 looking for athletes to give scholarships which means free or heavily subsidized tuition. Even D3 offers "leadership" scholarships to athletes that meet the academic standards for their schools.

Athletics is an avenue for a better future for MANY kids! If you demand they stay in a bad program for their development because they may make a bad choice of schools offering a potentially better situation, what are their other options?

Sit out a year of development? Bad choice and no help to anyone.

Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64989 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:23 pm to
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this isnt true. if you live out of zone, even if 100 feet and do not go to the feeder school for middle...not eligible to play varsity as a freshman


There are worse things in life than not being allowed to play varsity as a freshman,

It doesn't say you can't play, you just have to play JV or Freshman ball.

Seems like a more than fair trade off for someone who chooses to attend a school out of attendance zone.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37452 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:36 pm to
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There are worse things in life than not being allowed to play varsity as a freshman,

It doesn't say you can't play, you just have to play JV or Freshman ball.

Seems like a more than fair trade off for someone who chooses to attend a school out of attendance zone.


certainly....things like adults feeling they own your talents and you must go to the school they love because you live across an imaginary line
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
64989 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:52 pm to
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things like adults feeling they own your talents and you must go to the school they love because you live across an imaginary line





You're not nearly as commited to your kids as you think you are. If you were, you'd send little Jaxon to the Baseball School in Houston where they do virtual classes for 2 hours a day and baseball the rest of the time. Got to get Jaxon moved up into that first round of the 2030 MLB draft.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37452 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:59 pm to
the bennet school, maybe I could but that would require me to move to houston.

but again this has nothing to do with my kids. i just think the rules are dumb AF. its more government nanny state BS where they are deciding what is right for a kid and what isnt.

I am very very very very pro school choice. so I am going to always fight against shite like this and why i push back when people on here say private schools are cheating when they waive tutiuon

they are just leveling the playing field

this really has nothing to do with me personally, its about free market concepts for me. I just believe one of the ways to drive progress and improve schools is 100% school choice, money goes where the kid goes, no strings attached and make the schools compete for students, including private schools.

im a huge free market concept guy and believe the way we have done things the last 30 years is failed, try something different. one of the hold ups to that is sports.

i also get annoyed AF with people that say...yea well that kid should be at such and such high school because they lived there when they were young.....like its a sin to move to a better school district.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
7218 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:01 pm to
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Sit out a year of development? Bad choice and no help to anyone.


A few kids only allowed to play JV/9th grade is far better for the sport than free transfers. Those kids would still get to play varsity as a Soph, Jr, or Sr.
Posted by GhostofJackson
Speedy Teflon Wizard
Member since Nov 2009
7218 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:14 pm to
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if its only 1% why do you care what 1% does?


Uh, because the 1 percent changes the rules for 100 percent and the 99 percent could and will abuse it.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34365 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:44 pm to
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Some Holy Cross and Brother Martin wrestlers, who left St Paul’s, started that shite..
nStarted in Laffy or ellic
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34365 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:48 pm to
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so how do you expect them to "fix it"

a lot can be fixed by removing the bad apples that drag down the group as the lowest common denominator.
Posted by yaherrdme
The Place to Be
Member since Feb 2004
5922 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:14 pm to
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I thought so too but also had to sit a year or apply for a hardship waiver a hope LHSAA approves it.


They will not have to sit out if they move to a new attendance zone and the private school is in that new zone. No hardship or waiver needed in that scenario.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37452 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:18 pm to
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A few kids only allowed to play JV/9th grade is far better for the sport than free transfers. Those kids would still get to play varsity as a Soph, Jr, or Sr.



please explain in detail what those issues are?

schools having to compete to keep kids and keep the money that comes with that?


what is so wrong with having schools compete?

and why should they compete across the board?

if one school decides they dont want to or dont feel like they can keep up in sports but can for music or theatre or whatever.....why shouldnt they be able to focus on that, get kids that are interested in that to come there and get the money that comes with that?

we need 100% full school choice....let schools compete for the students and the money.....cant hack it....close. real simple

let the best rise to the top and let parents decide where they should go to school, not principles who have a conflict of interest. Of course educators and principles dont want things to change, vested interest to not
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37452 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:19 pm to
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the private school is in that new zone


most people on here have no clue that a private school actually has an attendance zone
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37452 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:20 pm to
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a lot can be fixed by removing the bad apples that drag down the group as the lowest common denominator.





of course...do you have a legal way to make that happen?
Posted by Cracking
Northshore
Member since Aug 2006
3534 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 5:58 pm to
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A few kids only allowed to play JV/9th grade is far better for the sport than free transfers. Those kids would still get to play varsity as a Soph, Jr, or Sr.


Why?

A kid getting early varsity experience for improved development in a good program is a good thing! A kid dominating lesser talented kids at the JV/9th grade level is not a good thing for anyone's development.

Why is everyone so scared of "free" transfers?

My son's school/sport had a bunch of very talented young guys transfer out of a good program because the kids and their parents thought they were going to a better situation. That's still up for debate, but God bless and good luck! Did I agree with their decision? Absolutely not, but by no means do I want the kids to be penalized. They were all granted eligibility to compete varsity out of district so it worked out for them (kinda), but they had to jump through hoops to get them eligible and it was up for debate.
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